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i worked Xmas Eve & New Years Eve, but still got same rate of pay

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  • olias
    olias Posts: 3,588 Forumite
    TBH £6.50ph for retail work is pretty good going anyway, it's normally minimum wage, so sounds like you were getting a good rate to start with. A lot of low paid jobs, especially seasonal or temp jobs only pay standard rate for overtime, any enhanced rate would be a bonus, but is not the norm in my experience.

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  • I'm puzzled why you think you should get extra pay for Xmas Eve and New Years Eve. Both of these are normal working days, not bank holidays, wherever you work, so in general no workers would expect to get extra money for working them. Of course some employers may choose to be more generous, but that's a bonus, not a right.

    As far as overtime goes - how many hours did you actually work over the course of the week? I'm afraid that in the majority of jobs, overtime is not automatically paid - in fact, in most of the jobs I've had, any extra hours are completely unpaid, even at normal rate! In retail, however, I would expect you to continue to be paid at your normal hourly rate - and as others have mentioned, you're on quite a good rate for temporary work like this.

    I think what is needed here is an adjustment of your expectations rather than any 'action'. Welcome to the world of work! :beer:
  • pinkshoes
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    Both Christmas Eve and NYE are bog standard working days, so you'd look like a muppet if you kicked up a fuss! You'd only get extra for Christmas Day and New Year's Day.

    I worked Christmas Eve as normal, and took NYE as (forced) holiday.
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  • pinkshoes wrote: »
    Both Christmas Eve and NYE are bog standard working days, so you'd look like a muppet if you kicked up a fuss! You'd only get extra for Christmas Day and New Year's Day.

    I worked Christmas Eve as normal, and took NYE as (forced) holiday.
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    I'm puzzled why you think you should get extra pay for Xmas Eve and New Years Eve. Both of these are normal working days, not bank holidays, wherever you work, so in general no workers would expect to get extra money for working them. Of course some employers may choose to be more generous, but that's a bonus, not a right.

    As far as overtime goes - how many hours did you actually work over the course of the week? I'm afraid that in the majority of jobs, overtime is not automatically paid - in fact, in most of the jobs I've had, any extra hours are completely unpaid, even at normal rate! In retail, however, I would expect you to continue to be paid at your normal hourly rate - and as others have mentioned, you're on quite a good rate for temporary work like this.

    I think what is needed here is an adjustment of your expectations rather than any 'action'. Welcome to the world of work! :beer:
    I guess it's a general misconception, then, because im definitely not the only one who originally held this opinion.
  • nearlyrich
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    If you were working in a bar on those nights and worked harder/longer than usual you might have a case, in a shop closing at what 6pm latest I doubt anyone get's paid extra. I worked both this year and I won't get paid extra as I am salaried not hourly paid.
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  • I'm a manager in retail, and you are absolutely right- it is a common misconception that (a)Christmas Eve & NYE are bank holidays and (b)That you automatically get paid more on BHs. Unfortuantely, neither is true!

    As others have said, unless explicitly stated in your contract your not entitled for any enhanced pay for the situation you've described.
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  • bubblegumcola
    bubblegumcola Posts: 1,100 Forumite
    edited 4 January 2010 at 10:48PM
    I've never been paid extra enhancement in my pay when I've worked in retail (on and off for the past 20 years) for working Xmas eve and New Years' eve. Working on Xmas day or on New years day would perhaps entitle you to enhanced pay but not normal working days, its not a holiday. In retail you work all the hours (!), if you are lucky you get paid extra for bank holidays and maybe Sundays it depends on the individual company. If you did night shift from Xmas eve into Xmas day then maybe you'd be paid extra, most nightshifts you get extra (time and a half). or if you have done an obscene amount of hours, way more than a 35/39 hour shift, maybe you would get more but I doubt it.

    Is this a temp job or permanent? How many hours do you normally work and what extra hours did you do? If you are temp then you may not have the same pay/conditions are permanent staff. If its a big company then all the pay and conditions should be set out clearly in your contract/staff handbook, if you don't have any ask your HR department or check the staff noticeboard. Read your contract, you should have a copy.

    The onlytime I've had extra pay for working New Year's eve was working in a pub and we got loads of tips which made up for how busy it was, we also got a New year drink from the boss, a once a year event!!
  • Savvy_Sue
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    pinkshoes wrote: »
    Both Christmas Eve and NYE are bog standard working days, so you'd look like a muppet if you kicked up a fuss! You'd only get extra for Christmas Day and New Year's Day.
    And then only if your contract said so.
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  • loisa
    loisa Posts: 212 Forumite
    I worked in retail over xmas and was only paid £5.80 an hour, so you are doing ok really. I had to work all day boxing day on normal pay too because it fell on a saturday.
  • loisa wrote: »
    I worked in retail over xmas and was only paid £5.80 an hour, so you are doing ok really. I had to work all day boxing day on normal pay too because it fell on a saturday.

    That sounds a raw deal. Are you entitled to a day off with pay in lieu of the Boxing Day? Or do you get a lieu day off but without pay?
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