No Income and apparently not entitled to Benefits, what can I do?

dookar

milliebear00001 wrote: »

But even people who fall into the support group are rarely incapable o any kid of work.

This is the entire point, very, very few people are

dmg24

milliebear00001 wrote: »

But again that's part of the problem isn't it. Employers often won't make adaptions, or don't see how they can. So the reality of the situation remains that it will be extremely difficult for a person with this amount of physical difficulty to get work. Even if the employer is willing to adapt things, the person is still on their own when it comes to getting to and from their workplace. We could of course just say 'well move somewhere else then, with better access and/or more jobs'. But the fact is, we (i.e. the benefits system) don't say this, because it would be an unreasonable infringement upon most people's lives.

None of these are valid reasons to claim ESA. Seeking employment is very difficult for those with health conditions, no one has said it is easy, but this in itself does not make them eligible for ESA.

A prime example would be someone who is permanently wheelchair bound, but otherwise capable of work. They have more barriers than the OP, but because there are plenty of roles they can do, would not qualify for ESA (although they would qualify for DLA).

dookar - yep, they are the ones!

milliebear00001

dookar wrote: »

This is the entire point, very, very few people are

Then why do so many people, who can work given the right circumstances, get an award?

dookar

milliebear00001 wrote: »

Then why do so many people, who can work given the right circumstances, get an award?

Because they have limited capability for work.

dookar

dmg24 wrote: »

dookar - yep, they are the ones!

Cheers

You wouldn't believe I trained hundreds of people in this benefit would you

jaffacakes82

I find it odd that a supermarket has no lifts in the building and that Employers can only get around using stairs everywhere - surely they have to provide disabled access?

I kind of agree with the poster who says it's coming across as the OP doesn't actually want to return to work. I can understand being declined ESA and DLA, recovering from a broken leg is not grounds for being too sick to work. You can't claim ESA or DLA on the grounds that you can't do a particular duty in a particular job. It means you are incapable (whether physically/mentally) of working at all.

My sister is a HR Manager in a supermarket and she says there's no way an Employee who has letters from Doctors/Hospitals saying they can't do x, y or z wouldn't be allowed back to work to do something. She's had to be involved in several cases and they sit down with the Employee and work out a way forward, such as... being on the till no longer than x amount of time in one go... given a chair for stand up tills... reducing hours... working backstage... transferring to another branch...

OP, you've now been deemed as fit to work by your Doctor and the DWP, why not work with that instead of against it? Or are you hoping to be dismissed or made redundant by your Employer?

Blackpool_Saver

If the OP can't claim a job seeking allowance due to still being retained by an employer, shouldn't the employer be paying her, or dismiss her due to medical grounds then she can claim.

rierie81

jaffacakes82 wrote: »

I find it odd that a supermarket has no lifts in the building and that Employers can only get around using stairs everywhere - surely they have to provide disabled access?

OP, you've now been deemed as fit to work by your Doctor and the DWP, why not work with that instead of against it? Or are you hoping to be dismissed or made redundant by your Employer?

Well maybe you're thinking of a large building, it's a small building but because of what it sells it's classed as a supermarket, there's a corner shop nearby that is also classed as a supermarket.
I don't know how old the building is, so maybe that's why they have no lifts.
Even the bigger one in the city centre doesn't have disabled access. Maybe they're exempt for some reason, I don't know, but this meeting on Friday it to discuss if there is anything my employer could do and if there isn't then I'll have my contract terminated.

And I haven't been deemed fit to work by MY doctor, I have been deemed fit to work by a lying medical assessor who said I could do things that I clearly can't do, it happens to be the same medical assessor who assessed that my dad who has panic attacks, suffers from depression, bronchitis, rhinitis and asthma was fit for work, when his doctor heard about that he had a go at them and the decision was reversed.

You're an idiot, why would I WANT to be without money for 6 months?
If I was able to go back to work I would, I need money to live on.

sharski

Then your only option is to appeal... there are no other avenues to take.

Sorry!