New Year, NHS rationing, should drunks be charged for admissions?

vivatifosi

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Ah. Sh1tfaced....

As opposed to the middleclass woman who has a bottle of wine, stumbles out in front of a car & causes 3 people to end up in hospital with multiple fractures.

But thats just a nice kind of p1ssed...

Personally I'd charge her too. But I'm in that kind of mood today. Pennywise's rounding up the drunk and disorderly is the most logical answer yet, but that won't happen because there's too much paperwork.

I just know I'm not going out tonight because I hate being around sh1tfaced people who vomit on your best shoes, or as has happened to me before now, a total stranger falls over and pull the sleeve off your new shirt on their way down. Idiots.

jojo1964

vivatifosi wrote: »

Personally I'd charge her too. But I'm in that kind of mood today. Pennywise's rounding up the drunk and disorderly is the most logical answer yet, but that won't happen because there's too much paperwork.

I just know I'm not going out tonight because I hate being around sh1tfaced people who vomit on your best shoes, or as has happened to me before now, a total stranger falls over and pull the sleeve off your new shirt on their way down. Idiots.

And i bet you shouted humbug at the carol singers.

vivatifosi

jojo1964 wrote: »

And i bet you shouted humbug at the carol singers.

Heavens no! I just turn the lights off and pretend I'm not in

treliac

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Ah. Sh1tfaced....

As opposed to the middleclass woman who has a bottle of wine, stumbles out in front of a car & causes 3 people to end up in hospital with multiple fractures.

They're hardly likely to investigate her class at that point.

StevieJ

vivatifosi wrote: »

Well therein lays the crux of the issue. Where I am local services are being withdrawn regularly and turning the issue on its head, I could ask why people here can't have a baby locally (because the money ran out and the unit shut), or have elective surgery locally (because the money for that ran out too and the unit shut) yet we continue to treat drunks for free. The most interesting issues are always those where there is both an ethical and a cost issue.

Maybe we should charge people who want to have a baby or elective surgery :rolleyes:

vivatifosi

Maybe you lot don't think like me. Fair enough... I know this forum is mostly about discussing house prices, but for me the biggest issue that we'll face over the coming year is diminishing resource allocation and paying for it. We all want public services with less waste and greed. Then we want what we use ourselves ring-fenced. I want regular bin collections and good cancer provision, someone else will want good schools, someone else their meals on wheels and weekly carer visit. But what happens when something has to give?

I get that the NHS is supposed to be free at the point of use, I get that loads of taxes are paid on fags and booze that supposedly covers these things, but those taxes will continue to go up (as will other taxes) and the NHS will continue to have what is "free" eroded as has already happened to a great extent in dentistry and eye care. We will all grumble. But seriously, what would you cut or charge for instead (management consultants are probably a given)? What will you do with a reduced budget for healthcare?

http://www.lgcplus.com/finance/16-budget-cuts-by-2017-new-research/5004192.article

ben500

Last time I looked we had a national health service catering to the nation not just a select few.

Mr.Brown_4

New Year, NHS rationing, should drunks be charged for admissions?

I suppose it depends what sort of show they're putting on. tbh I went last year, absolutely rat @ssed on a combination of cider and vodka - and there was nothing really entertaining about the place. Just a load of aggressive drunks, and the patients were almost as bad.

StevieJ

I don't want anything cut, in fact I want an increase in front line services, some brainstorming required and that includes involving the staff (from top to bottom) in seeking out some radical (efficiency) savings.

vivatifosi

StevieJ wrote: »

I don't want anything cut, in fact I want an increase in front line services, some brainstorming required and that includes involving the staff (from top to bottom) in seeking out some radical (efficiency) savings.

I'd agree with that Stevie. From my own and DH's very brief experience of working in public services the views of the minions are often not solicited and many good ideas go overlooked.