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New Year, NHS rationing, should drunks be charged for admissions?

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  • blueboy43
    blueboy43 Posts: 575 Forumite
    Emy1501 wrote: »
    My local town used to have a blow up tent in the town centre on a weekend to deal with the minor injuries from people pouring out of the clubs etc. I suspect most of the people who end up in AE after a night oout due to drink fit in the 18-24 maybe 30 age range. I maybe wrong but I suspect you will struggle to get £530 out of them. I work in an industry where we used to try and get money out of uninsured drivers many who fit into the above age range. It was a waste of time many did not have any money and even you got a judgement against them it was normally at £5 a week which never got paid. I personally just don't see the fine being paid myself.

    This hits the nail on the head. The courts are full already of people paying fines at £1 per week or month. The cost of collection outweighs the revenue.

    If we want to tackle city centre drinking and violence, go after the venues that promote it. That's were the money is. Once they actually get substantial fines for serving drunks then they might start behaving more responsibly.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 2 January 2010 at 5:26PM
    Afriend wrote: »
    You miss the point. Most who like a beverage or two drink at home before going out.

    Do you know how expensive alcohol is? £3 a pint in Surrey.

    You can have a pint of Sammy Smith ooooop north for around £1.40 :beer:

    http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/news.ma/article/82300

    Some nice olde worldy pubs too, here is one local to me.

    http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/27/27686/Falcon/Chester
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Smoking costs the NHS several billion pounds a year. Tax on tobacco raises 11 billion a year though, so smokers subsidise the healthy.

    Same thing with drinkers. Alcohol duty and tax raise around 20 billion, alcohol related disease only costs a few billion.

    Drinkers already pay for their own health care, with more than enough left over to pay for the cost of Policing town centres, and theres still billions left to subsidise everone else.

    Why make them pay twice?

    I believe fatties cost the NHS more than drinking and smoking put together. There is no additional tax on burgers, kebabs and pies.
  • abaxas
    abaxas Posts: 4,141 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    I believe fatties cost the NHS more than drinking and smoking put together. There is no additional tax on burgers, kebabs and pies.

    And 'management' is more than them all put together.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    abaxas wrote: »
    And 'management' is more than them all put together.
    I wonder what percentage of managers are fat, thereby costing twice as much.
  • abaxas
    abaxas Posts: 4,141 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    I wonder what percentage of managers are fat, thereby costing twice as much.

    I used to work in the NHS.

    For every medical worker (doctor or nurse) there were 2 managers/ pct support staff.
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