CSA & son's 16

Caist74

Hi..

Seems that I'm asking lots of different questions on MSE (sorry about that, but needed to know all them things).

I havent claimed CSA via my ex partner because he seems to not able to hold down a job, so me being nice let him off (since 2004). We did agree before we parted that he can pay me £50 a month, which isnt alot but I didnt mind, not seen a single payment out of it.

My son was in contact with his father every week until back in May when there was some disagreement so no contact between them since. I have asked many times that I'd like some help in bringing up my son when he was at school but ges the usual "I cant afford anything" so I left it at that.

Now my son's not in any full time aducation since June and isnt claiming anything for himself. My ex parter is married since 2005 and now has 1 child with his wife and a step daughter, as far as I know he's now working.. Can I still contact CSA and get them to contact my ex to start payment even my son's 16 and still living at home with me. Ex seems to be able to afford many things with his new family (not to mention how many pets he now has!) and able to fob me off..

Look forward to hear any advice or suggestions,

Thanks,

Caist

shell_542

You need to ring them and ask.

There is conflicting information on their website. On one page it says that child support payments stop once a 16 yr old leaves full time education ... on another it says that a 16 and 17 yr old are still classed as a child for child support reasons if they are living at home and a)not working, b)not married or c)claiming benefits themselves.

I'd be interested in knowing what they tell you.

Caist74

Hi shell,

I agree it's confusing, hence asked on here. I won't be able to ring them as I'm deaf, so will have to write to them and ask.

Caist

shell_542

They have a text phone if that's of any help x


08457 138 924

Caist74

I admit, I dont even have text phone (I should really but my old one doesnt work anymore so I usually rely on my son which I dont like to!) But thanks anyway, will writ to them instead

Thanks,

Caist

DUTR

shell_542 wrote: »

They have a text phone if that's of any help x


08457 138 924

A textphone is nothing to do with mobile SMS media, it is a phone product to assist those with hearing difficulties. as those at the RNID will tell you.

DX2

Caist74 wrote: »

Hi..

Seems that I'm asking lots of different questions on MSE (sorry about that, but needed to know all them things).

I havent claimed CSA via my ex partner because he seems to not able to hold down a job, so me being nice let him off (since 2004). We did agree before we parted that he can pay me £50 a month, which isnt alot but I didnt mind, not seen a single payment out of it.

My son was in contact with his father every week until back in May when there was some disagreement so no contact between them since. I have asked many times that I'd like some help in bringing up my son when he was at school but ges the usual "I cant afford anything" so I left it at that.

Now my son's not in any full time aducation since June and isnt claiming anything for himself. My ex parter is married since 2005 and now has 1 child with his wife and a step daughter, as far as I know he's now working.. Can I still contact CSA and get them to contact my ex to start payment even my son's 16 and still living at home with me. Ex seems to be able to afford many things with his new family (not to mention how many pets he now has!) and able to fob me off..

Look forward to hear any advice or suggestions,

Thanks,

Caist

Your child needs to be in full time education for you to be able to claim child support.
Child maintenance is payable all the time that Child Benefit is being paid and the child is:

• aged under 16; or
• under 19 and in full-time non-advanced education

The definition of full time education is more than 12 hours a week of study on a course up to and including A level standard. Some examples of non-advanced education are:
Non - Advanced Education

• GCE / GCSE - A level / AS level / O level
• SCE Higher Grade or equivalent
• GNVQ / NVQ levels 1 2 & 3
• BTEC National Diploma
• SCOTVEC National Certificate
• Scottish Certificate of 6th Year Studies
• Foundation Arts Course
• Secretarial Course with GCSE entry
• NNEB
• Hairdressing Courses

Loopy_Girl

OP, are you still getting Child Benefit for your son?

Loopy_Girl

DUTR wrote: »

A textphone is nothing to do with mobile SMS media, it is a phone product to assist those with hearing difficulties. as those at the RNID will tell you.

Which is probably why Shell suggested it as the OP has already shared the information she is deaf. Now, I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure that deafness would come under 'hearing difficulties'.

Loopy_Girl

DX2 wrote: »

Your child needs to be in full time education for you to be able to claim child support.

Child maintenance is payable all the time that Child Benefit is being paid and the child is:

• aged under 16; or
• under 19 and in full-time non-advanced education

The definition of full time education is more than 12 hours a week of study on a course up to and including A level standard. Some examples of non-advanced education are:
Non - Advanced Education

• GCE / GCSE - A level / AS level / O level
• SCE Higher Grade or equivalent
• GNVQ / NVQ levels 1 2 & 3
• BTEC National Diploma
• SCOTVEC National Certificate
• Scottish Certificate of 6th Year Studies
• Foundation Arts Course
• Secretarial Course with GCSE entry
• NNEB
• Hairdressing Courses

DX, this was the situation that we all thought but Shell found something in their website which seems to contradict their info (I know, what a shocker eh?!!!)Child


For child maintenance purposes, a child is anyone under 16 or someone between 16 and 19 who:

• is not, nor has ever been, married or in a civil partnership, and
• is in full-time non-advanced education.

Also, anyone aged 16 or 17 who is not in education, is not working and does not receive employment-related benefits is defined as a child for child maintenance purposes.


The point in italics is the confusing thing as it would suggest that if a child (which they would be in England and Wales until they are 18) isn't in education but still living with a parent, then CS can be paid. As only 16/17 year olds can get benefits if they are estranged from their parents, then it would be a young person staying at home but with no job or education.

DX2

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

For child maintenance purposes, a child is anyone under 16 or someone between 16 and 19 who:

• is not, nor has ever been, married or in a civil partnership, and
• is in full-time non-advanced education.

Also, anyone aged 16 or 17 who is not in education, is not working and does not receive employment-related benefits is defined as a child for child maintenance purposes.

:think: It does kinda contradict itself, doesn't it. Your CB/CTC ends when your child is 16 and is no longer in full time education, however you are still eligible for child support.