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Assured Shorthold Tenancy... LL issue!! Help!

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  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    so you have also been opening your landlord mail and not passing it on ? maybe this could have something to do with his not dealing with things.....

    POP = how on earth anyone can say that telling a tenant a notice will be issued is "bullying" is utterly beyond me.

    you, OP, are in arrears, and both LL and LA are perfectly legally allowed to discuss your rent arrears with you... they also have a legal duty to explain to you what will happen if you do not pay up and they generally do this in both verbal communication followed up by written confirmation - part of the consequences of you not paying up is for them to issue notices.......
  • clutton wrote: »
    so you have also been opening your landlord mail and not passing it on ? maybe this could have something to do with his not dealing with things.....



    POP = how on earth anyone can say that telling a tenant a notice will be issued is "bullying" is utterly beyond me.



    you, OP, are in arrears, and both LL and LA are perfectly legally allowed to discuss your rent arrears with you... they also have a legal duty to explain to you what will happen if you do not pay up and they generally do this in both verbal communication followed up by written confirmation - part of the consequences of you not paying up is for them to issue notices.......

    In regards the 'letter' - Do you know that? Were you here? Did you see 'who' the letter was addressed too?

    For your peace of mind as it seems to be highly bothering you, it was addressed to the tennants to make us aware of the proceedings taking place, therefore fully able to be opened by me or anyone else living here!!


    To advise of serving notice a day after being unable to pay rent and when offering payment within 1 week, Yes I would class as bullying and OTT!
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  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    edited 29 December 2009 at 5:55PM
    well to avoid such "bullying" pay your rent on time.......

    ""Sorry, No I dont see, as we have paid in advance for everything so it was due yesterday so 1 day in arrears .... :confused: Sorry Im not good with all this....""

    but as you were contracted to pay monthly and were paying weekly/two weekly you would have always been in arrears........


    if tenants who pay regular as clockwork over a period then miss a payment, or are a few days late i will contact them after a week or so. If a tenant like you who pays very spasmodically, i jump on late rent as fast as your landlord, as the next stage to "late paying.... 'cos.... " (and landlords have heard every excuse in the book for late/non payment of rent) ... is "no payment"....

    the sooner a LL/LA issues notices, the sooner s/he can get non-paying tenants out of their property.

    Being issued with a notice also focuses the tenants minds as to the seriousness of their position

    If a LL does not issue a notice to the tenant he CANNOT get a tenant out..... so notices are imperative......
  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    Why-oh-Why wrote: »
    Thanks for this response.

    The letting Agents are extremely bizare, they do as much as possible verbally and pin you down and forget there terms etc so yes bullying antics are apparent as far as were concerned.

    it also doesnt help that the landlord is the letting agents brother in law who happens to be in India all the time!

    Its all a nightmare, I think we intend to look elsewhere if possible, but want to know where we stand in the meantime and deal with the issue.

    Either way, from what people say its not like they can provide a notice of which we have to immediately move out so thats the main thing, as we would most definately have no where to go!

    Just because the letting agents do things verbally does not mean you have to. If you are going to be late with your month's rent send a letter to the agent/ landlord by recorded delivery. If you make a verbal agreement to pay weekly, confirm this in writing by recorded delivery.

    It doesn't matter what country the landlord is based in, as long as you have an address in England or Wales at which to serve notices. It also doesn't matter what the relationship between the letting agent and landlord is, as a letting agent always works in the interests of the landlord over and above the tenant.
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  • clutton wrote: »
    well to avoid such "bullying" pay your rent on time.......

    ""Sorry, No I dont see, as we have paid in advance for everything so it was due yesterday so 1 day in arrears .... :confused: Sorry Im not good with all this....""

    but as you were contracted to pay monthly and were paying weekly/two weekly you would have always been in arrears........


    if tenants who pay regular as clockwork over a period then miss a payment, or are a few days late i will contact them after a week or so. If a tenant like you who pays very spasmodically, i jump on late rent as fast as your landlord, as the next stage to "late paying.... 'cos.... " (and landlords have heard every excuse in the book for late/non payment of rent) ... is "no payment"....

    the sooner a LL/LA issues notices, the sooner s/he can get non-paying tenants out of their property.

    Being issued with a notice also focuses the tenants minds as to the seriousness of their position

    If a LL does not issue a notice to the tenant he CANNOT get a tenant out..... so notices are imperative......

    Look Mr, Whats your point..... If you have a grievance with tennants in general, why are you a landlord?

    I wonder if you actually have taken notice, my question was asking if this is right as I had lost my job, offered payment in a weeks time whilst waiting on money coming through. So Thanks for your input but I think ill leave it there where as your concerned, As most people come on this site for advice which is all I needed, and I feel you are taking this too far. So please do not post on this thread. I have the information I needed, and appreciate the 'useful' parts of your reponses.
    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    Just because the letting agents do things verbally does not mean you have to. If you are going to be late with your month's rent send a letter to the agent/ landlord by recorded delivery. If you make a verbal agreement to pay weekly, confirm this in writing by recorded delivery.

    It doesn't matter what country the landlord is based in, as long as you have an address in England or Wales at which to serve notices. It also doesn't matter what the relationship between the letting agent and landlord is, as a letting agent always works in the interests of the landlord over and above the tenant.

    I agree, maybe when things were verbally said I should have requested things in writing and even communicated in writing myself for back up on coversations that have taken place, I take this on board and will in future correspond this way.
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  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    ""Its all a nightmare, I think we intend to look elsewhere if possible, but want to know where we stand in the meantime and deal with the issue.""

    if you are going to leave earlier than the end of your 12 month fixed term - then please read your tenancy agreement carefully for a 6 month break clause.

    If there is no break clause, then you are legally obliged to pay the rent until a new tenant is found and you are obliged to pay the landlords re-marketing and advertising costs, in addition to any rent arrears or damage costs.
  • clutton wrote: »
    ""Its all a nightmare, I think we intend to look elsewhere if possible, but want to know where we stand in the meantime and deal with the issue.""

    if you are going to leave earlier than the end of your 12 month fixed term - then please read your tenancy agreement carefully for a 6 month break clause.

    If there is no break clause, then you are legally obliged to pay the rent until a new tenant is found and you are obliged to pay the landlords re-marketing and advertising costs, in addition to any rent arrears or damage costs.

    Yes I am fully aware of this! Now give over and help someone else, I have all I asked for thank you very much!
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  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    when you post on a public forum, you may get responses you like and others that you dont like.....

    i have a great respect for all my tenants who pay their rent as they are contrated to do - on a very regular basis....

    Landlords are not banks (especially round Christmas) and we are not running a "money-lending " business...

    If your landlord has several properties with tenants doing what you are doing, it is no wonder that he is in trouble with his mortgage....

    i hope that you do not get evicted, i really do, it is not pleasant for anyone.... but you have to take responsibility for your own actions....
  • clutton wrote: »
    when you post on a public forum, you may get responses you like and others that you dont like.....

    i have a great respect for all my tenants who pay their rent as they are contrated to do - on a very regular basis....

    Landlords are not banks (especially round Christmas) and we are not running a "money-lending " business...

    If your landlord has several properties with tenants doing what you are doing, it is no wonder that he is in trouble with his mortgage....

    i hope that you do not get evicted, i really do, it is not pleasant for anyone.... but you have to take responsibility for your own actions....

    I do take responsibility this is why I do not understand why you are preaching this way.

    My payments have always been pretty regular, I lost my job less than a month ago, I was made redundant, Now, surely you can see that for me to confirm payment would be made in 1 week (well actually a week tomorrow) to receive this reaction is somewhat distressing.

    I have no problem with opinions, but your distracting from the question and making it a personal response to me and pulling at snippets of information which is very unfair.

    Thanks for responding.
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  • Ulfar
    Ulfar Posts: 1,309 Forumite
    So while you were in work your payments were to quote you "pretty regular" and now you are unemployed they are going to irregular.

    I have been a tenant both while employed and unemployed and have never missed a rent payment even while waiting for housing benefit. If I had behaved as you are and with the attitude you are displaying then I would expect to be evicted sooner rather than later by a land lord.

    Clutton has provided you with the correct advice, that you do not appreciate this is your problem.

    Your Landlord is providing you with somewhere to live for which he expects to be paid as per your tenancy contract, if you cannot or did not intende to stivk to this contract you should never have eneterd into it.
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