Boiler Scrappage Scheme Info

lightlysalted

Rang the energy saving trust (0800 512012) who will be administering the boiler scrappge scheme. They have a list (not complete yet) of boilers classed as G rating. Ours is a baxi solo 2PF and is classed as G rated. All you need to do to check yours is to call them and give them the GC number off the internal front panel of your boiler. This will then help them to identify the rating of your boiler and whether you will qualify. In typical style the Government have made announcements before giving the organisation who adminsiter it full details of how it will work! The energy saving trust told me that full details of the scrappage scheme and how it will work will be available from January 2010

C_Mababejive

IMHO if you are replacing your boiler,combi or not,you'd fare better to get a higher efficiency system boiler fitted with a hot water storage cylinder rather than another combi.

Cardew

lightlysalted wrote: »

All you need to do to check yours is to call them and give them the GC number off the internal front panel of your boiler.

You can check if your boiler is G rated here:

http://www.ofgem.gov.uk/Sustainability/Environment/EnergyEff/InfProjMngrs/Documents1/SEDBUK%20G%20Rated%20Boilers%20List.xls

silkyuk9

so what does all this mean? finance wise.

Cardew

silkyuk9 wrote: »

so what does all this mean? finance wise.

Essentially £400 toward a new boiler. Details not announced: More here:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2136615&highlight=boiler+scrappage

SuzieSue

C_Mababejive wrote: »

IMHO if you are replacing your boiler,combi or not,you'd fare better to get a higher efficiency system boiler fitted with a hot water storage cylinder rather than another combi.

Hi CM, please could you explain why. I am thinking of replacing my system boiler with a combi. Are you saying that I shouldn't?

Thanks

Marsdendean

depends wht you use your hot water for ie two baths at the same time?

also, why not get presurized cylinder, which means you will have hot water at the same pressure as your cold water and are more efficient than older cylinders,

you need good water pressure thou

CrashUK

C_Mababejive wrote: »

IMHO if you are replacing your boiler,combi or not,you'd fare better to get a higher efficiency system boiler fitted with a hot water storage cylinder rather than another combi.

would that not use more gas?? I dont have hot water storage and my gas bill is very low in summer like 20p week. I only use gas for hot water and heating

C_Mababejive

SuzieSue wrote: »

Hi CM, please could you explain why. I am thinking of replacing my system boiler with a combi. Are you saying that I shouldn't?

Thanks

Its only my view but i think that too many combis are fitted in inappropriate situations leading to poor service for end users.
Combi> has a high output when on hot water,needs optimum gas and water pressure to work effectively,not very good at supplying more than one tap at same time,lots of energy wasted due to inertia between turning tap on and getting water at required temp.

System boiler (high efficiency)...lower output/consumption,will work just as well with less than optimum gas pressure. water pressure not really relevant.Fit it with a modern hot water storage cylinder so heat losses are minimalised. Any heat losses go into your home,not down the drain. You can run more than one tap with plenty of hot water and no frustration. Modern hot water cylinders reheat from cold to hot very quickly. You retain a stored hot water supply in case of gas supply failure and have the added bonus of an electric immersion heater in the tank. Also,if you use a pressurised HW cylinder you get a higher pressure hot water output,,good for larger homes and showers.

SuzieSue

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Its only my view but i think that too many combis are fitted in inappropriate situations leading to poor service for end users.
Combi> has a high output when on hot water,needs optimum gas and water pressure to work effectively,not very good at supplying more than one tap at same time,lots of energy wasted due to inertia between turning tap on and getting water at required temp.

System boiler (high efficiency)...lower output/consumption,will work just as well with less than optimum gas pressure. water pressure not really relevant.Fit it with a modern hot water storage cylinder so heat losses are minimalised. Any heat losses go into your home,not down the drain. You can run more than one tap with plenty of hot water and no frustration. Modern hot water cylinders reheat from cold to hot very quickly. You retain a stored hot water supply in case of gas supply failure and have the added bonus of an electric immersion heater in the tank. Also,if you use a pressurised HW cylinder you get a higher pressure hot water output,,good for larger homes and showers.

Thanks very much for this. I spoke to some central heating engineers yesterday and they confirmed what you said and said that they would not recommend changing to a combi boiler. I had just assumed that it was the done thing, but apparently not. Also, I wasn't happy about not having an electric immersion heater if the cetnral heating broke down. I suppose I would prefer not to have water tanks in the loft, but that seems to be the only advantage of having a combi.