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Parking in a parent and child space.

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  • LilacPixie, try your local council for a blue badge. They have the discrretion to award one even if you are not on HRM. The fact that you have an adaptation to your car will help.

    My son has a blue badge and he is eleven years old. I must admit that when I park in a disabled space I get some strange looks at times. Even when he gets out of the car and into his wheelchair, if he is using it that day, can lead to glares. It's almost as though children cannot be disabled. At Morrison's, I cannot manage his wheelchair and a trolley, so he sits inside the trolley with the food (hence not using his wheelchair on those occasions). The staff are used to him, but we still get odd looks at times from other people. Luckily, he tends just to smile at them...
  • blue_monkey_2
    blue_monkey_2 Posts: 11,435 Forumite
    My son has a BB and he has ADHD/Autism. He does not get HRM but the coucil told me that all ADHD children qualify for Blue Badges because they have no road awareness.

    Sandy, do you use your BB if not parking at Tesco? Is this why you do not need one, because you already have one?

    That being said I only do my big shop online these days. The £5 I spend on delivery is more or less what I would spend on petrol and the other crap I pick up that I do not actualy need. It saves all the hassle of the supermarket, especially now that he is getting too big for the trolley and the disabled child trolley scares him.

    I looked at the ADDISS site and it seems to be just selling you loads of stuff. Our local ADHD group does seminars, talks, visits from healthcare professionals and has all of the books in their library that you can borrow for 50p donation. Plus you get to speak to other parents in the same situation.

    Bring on the school holidays......
  • magical
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    Thanks for all your replies. I didnt mean to start any arguments about it. I was just meerly asking.

    I have mobility difficulties so cant walk very far. So if i couldnt park in a p and child space then i would have to go home.

    thanks:D
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  • bargepole
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    No, you don't have to go home.

    Disabled spaces, parent & child spaces, blue badges, etc., have NO legal status at all in privately owned car parks. They are only there as a courtesy.

    If you got a "ticket" for breaching their so-called rules, you could safely ignore it and all their rubbish follow up threatening letters, as these are not enforceable. Check out the "parking fines" section of this website to see the truth about this.

    I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 57, lost 14), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and have a Graduate Diploma in Civil Litigation from CILEx. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.
  • sandy71
    sandy71 Posts: 898 Forumite
    My son has a BB and he has ADHD/Autism. He does not get HRM but the coucil told me that all ADHD children qualify for Blue Badges because they have no road awareness.

    Sandy, do you use your BB if not parking at Tesco? Is this why you do not need one, because you already have one?

    That being said I only do my big shop online these days. The £5 I spend on delivery is more or less what I would spend on petrol and the other crap I pick up that I do not actualy need. It saves all the hassle of the supermarket, especially now that he is getting too big for the trolley and the disabled child trolley scares him.

    I looked at the ADDISS site and it seems to be just selling you loads of stuff. Our local ADHD group does seminars, talks, visits from healthcare professionals and has all of the books in their library that you can borrow for 50p donation. Plus you get to speak to other parents in the same situation.

    Bring on the school holidays......

    Hi, thanks for the info. No we don't already have a blue badge for him. Because I'm not allowed to drive the only place we go to in the car really is the supermarket. I rang the local council to ask and they said they won't give them out for ADHD but we can apply and will have to see a physiotherapist at the local hospital who will decide.
    We don't have a local ADHD group, the camhs centre does do one but its 25 miles away and I just can't get there.
    magical wrote: »
    Thanks for all your replies. I didnt mean to start any arguments about it. I was just meerly asking.

    I have mobility difficulties so cant walk very far. So if i couldnt park in a p and child space then i would have to go home.

    thanks:D

    I don't think you did start any arguments, it was a valid question and sparked a healthy debate ;)
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  • sarahg1969
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    LilacPixie wrote: »
    ...no blue badge for me. I park in P&C spaces...

    Car park ownershave a duty to provide parking for disabled people, not solely blue badge holders. If you have a disability, then there's no reason why you shouldn't park in a disabled bay in a private car park. To prevent you from doing so would be discriminatory, surely?

    And, as for using P&C spaces, why not? If there are no disabled bays to park in, then it makes sense to use them if you can't get in and out in an ordinary bay. I don't have a problem with old people using them either, if they would struggle in an ordinary bay. To suggest that people who really need them shouldn't use them is not very compassionate, imo.
  • Emmzi
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    sandy71 wrote: »
    If disabled people should'nt shop we would starve to death here. If I send hubby on his own he comes back with wine, a loaf of bread and a packet of penguins to last the week:eek:

    I'll live with that if it's a big bottle of wine. Send him over!
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  • Molly41
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    legio11 wrote: »
    I have had my blue badge for just under a month and hat eusing it because to anyone looking at me i look like a healthyish 28 year old but my m.e means i can walk a couple of paces and feel exhausted. I have in the last week been shouted at and stopped in a morrisons carpark with a elderly couple telling me there was nothing wrong with me. Believe me i would much rather not have to use the spaces and because we have a toddler i always try to park in child spaces first but on bad days those extra couple of steps can lead to 2 days in bed

    Im 42 and have been shouted at and had fists shaken at me whilst parking my car in a disabled space with my blue badge. The most abusive have always been the elderly who see you sat in your car and think you are undeserving of a blue badge. Morrisons is the worst for abuse of disabled parking. I shame them by wobbling out of my car and struggling across their path. I stare at them and generally they lower their gaze.
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  • LilacPixie
    LilacPixie Posts: 8,052 Forumite
    sarahg1969 wrote: »
    Car park ownershave a duty to provide parking for disabled people, not solely blue badge holders. If you have a disability, then there's no reason why you shouldn't park in a disabled bay in a private car park. To prevent you from doing so would be discriminatory, surely?

    Quite possibly but most if not all have signs that say these spaces are reserved for blue badge holders only.
    sarahg1969 wrote: »
    And, as for using P&C spaces, why not? If there are no disabled bays to park in, then it makes sense to use them if you can't get in and out in an ordinary bay. I don't have a problem with old people using them either, if they would struggle in an ordinary bay. To suggest that people who really need them shouldn't use them is not very compassionate, imo.
    Not sure where compassion comes into it TBH I am possibly a stickler for the rules bit as I have no blue badge I have no entitlment to park in a disabled space. Likewise a disabled person with no children present has no entitlement to park in the P&C spaces. In my local tesco the P&C spaces are always full yet usually there are 3-4 disabled bays full. if everyone with a child opted to park in the disabled bays as the P&C was full and they needed extra room to open doors wider then there would never be any disabled spaces availible for those who do actually need them.

    There needs to be rules and everyone needs to stick with those rules for things to work out otherwise things will collapse.
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  • Savvy_Sue
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    At Morrison's, I cannot manage his wheelchair and a trolley, so he sits inside the trolley with the food (hence not using his wheelchair on those occasions). The staff are used to him, but we still get odd looks at times from other people. Luckily, he tends just to smile at them...
    If there is no disabled trolley (ie one which fits onto the front of the wheelchair or that is also unmanageable) have you thought of asking for help? ie member of staff to push the trolley for you.

    I'm just thinking it can't be very comfy sitting in a trolley, and I'm not wild about using a trolley which has had a child's shoes all over the bottom of it.
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