Paint Q Help please

worriedsik

Hi , iam wondering is there a gloss on the market that stays white longer ?

its not a trick Q lol......i have white doors in my house they are the standard panneled ones which are hollow inside
i have noticed that when i gloss them (always white ) the whiteness only lasts a few months , longer everywhere else but the bathroom door goes off white first and most off the upstairs doors but the bathroom door doesnt stay pure white for long
The dowstairs ones do stay nice and white for a lot longer, my theory ( which may be wrong so feel free to tell me yours ) is that since i have electric storage heaters i think its maybee the heating that turns them a yelowish dirty white couler ? as all the heat would rise to the top off the house this may be the reason ?.
Today i decided to gloss the inside off the bathroom door as it was the worse ( only done it in august ) ! ended up doing the skirtings and the rest off the upstairs doors because once i started it all had to be done Grrrrr
Its the expense pluss the labour for me as i have back & joint problems and its an ongoing project
Any great suggestions off some miracle gloss ? i cannot replace the doors this would be too costly and its a local authority house anyway

Thanks

paddypaws101

I am sure the professionals will soon be along to give proper advice....but...what I have learned from various decorator friends is to use Dulux or similar as cheaper brands do not perform as well. Also...don't be tempted by the one coat paints ( we DIYers love the idea ) but use a solvent based undercoat and separate gloss top coat.
Good luck...

WestonDave

My understanding was that they go yellow when they don't get much natural daylight - not sure about the heating theory because presumably your heating hasn't been on much since August until recently.

The quick drying stuff is supposed to yellow less because its water rather than oil based - trouble is, I find the finish is nowhere near as good as a good oil based one - I find them a bit streaky, but you might find it worth a try. If it is the lack of light you might find leaving the doors in a position where they get more light helps but I suspect you have some areas where you just can't do that.

worriedsik

WestonDave wrote: »

My understanding was that they go yellow when they don't get much natural daylight - not sure about the heating theory because presumably your heating hasn't been on much since August until recently.

The quick drying stuff is supposed to yellow less because its water rather than oil based - trouble is, I find the finish is nowhere near as good as a good oil based one - I find them a bit streaky, but you might find it worth a try. If it is the lack of light you might find leaving the doors in a position where they get more light helps but I suspect you have some areas where you just can't do that.

Ah ha could be right dave...there is no window in the bathroom ! or on the top landing mmmmm could be....what is the quick drying stuff ? i always thought that we should gloss woodwork ie doors

thanks

worriedsik

paddypaws101 wrote: »

I am sure the professionals will soon be along to give proper advice....but...what I have learned from various decorator friends is to use Dulux or similar as cheaper brands do not perform as well. Also...don't be tempted by the one coat paints ( we DIYers love the idea ) but use a solvent based undercoat and separate gloss top coat.
Good luck...

Thanks paddy ...i have used expensive gloss but still same happens

thank you

keystone

paddypaws101 wrote: »

I am sure the professionals will soon be along to give proper advice....but...what I have learned from various decorator friends is to use Dulux or similar as cheaper brands do not perform as well.

Largely the quality brands (NOT the sheds own branded stuff) perform better. Its the linseed oil in the paint which causes it to yellow.

Also...don't be tempted by the one coat paints ( we DIYers love the idea )

Oh don't be so sure of that. Crown Solo is a serious fave at the moment for the professionals and likely to stay that way for a while.

Cheers

worriedsik

Keystone...so is there a paint (gloss) which has no linseed ? should i use crown solo ?

thanks

keystone

worriedsik wrote: »

Keystone...so is there a paint (gloss) which has no linseed ? should i use crown solo ?

thanks

There are lots of acrylic (waterbased) gloss paints around. Dulux have done 'em for a long time but its a difficult paint to master. Crown Solo is lovely paint - self undercoating too. Yes give it a try.

Cheers

27col

I have noticed that paint not exposed to direct sunlight seems to yellow more than paint that is exposed. I thought that I was seeing things, so perhaps I am not going mad after all.

worriedsik

27col wrote: »

I have noticed that paint not exposed to direct sunlight seems to yellow more than paint that is exposed. I thought that I was seeing things, so perhaps I am not going mad after all.

lol it was the first i heard off it but it makes sense now to me

nickj_2

keystone wrote: »

Largely the quality brands (NOT the sheds own branded stuff) perform better. Its the linseed oil in the paint which causes it to yellow.

Oh don't be so sure of that. Crown Solo is a serious fave at the moment for the professionals and likely to stay that way for a while.

Cheers

i don't think modern gloss has linseed oil in it - yellowing is normally caused by heat - sun etc
crown solon't a serious fave with the painters i know , most use dulux
water based paint tend not to yellow , although you don't get the brilliant shine with them