help. Xmas do... suspected of doing DRUGS!!!!!!

DVardysShadow

Anihilator wrote: »

The OP who is on the record as going looking for the manager ran into the manager and the rest of the staff at an organised work night out though.

OP you are finished because that comment fully justifies that you went looking for trouble.

He's done nothing illegal in that and where he did it is outside the writ of company policy. Plus, as others pointed out, seeking someone out is not enough to justify as looking for trouble.

DirectDebacle

u264047 wrote: »

No, he said in a later meeting that he "possibly" made the public declaration of not drinking with a smack head and insisting everyone departed.

Thanks for the clarification. I mixed this up with an earlier post of yours that your line manager described a remark of yours as a joke.

You need to seek advice as to whether any of this is actually the business of H.R. All of it appears to have occurred after a works do when around 20 or so personnel, out of working hours and not on work premises go to a place open to the public to socialize. You are all there as private citizens and not at work or representing your company in any official way.

It is here and later at a separate venue that the incidents occur. I cannot see why any of this should be a matter for a diciplinary hearing. As I said I have no expertise so may well be wrong.

The fly in the ointment is the flimsy allegation of offering to supply drugs to a colleague whilst at your place of work. H.R. should be concerned with this. As previously pointed out it should be first reported to and investigated by the police.

H.R. are unlikely to do this as they will probably have realised that this is a spurious allegation and will not take it seriously.

Please take what breathing space you have left to receive expert advice on all of these issues.

robredz

DirectDebacle wrote: »

You need to seek advice as to whether any of this is actually the business of H.R. All of it appears to have occurred after a works do when around 20 or so personnel, out of working hours and not on work premises go to a place open to the public to socialize. You are all there as private citizens and not at work or representing your company in any official way.

It is here and later at a separate venue that the incidents occur. I cannot see why any of this should be a matter for a diciplinary hearing. As I said I have no expertise so may well be wrong.

The fly in the ointment is the flimsy allegation of offering to supply drugs to a colleague whilst at your place of work. H.R. should be concerned with this. As previously pointed out it should be first reported to and investigated by the police.

H.R. are unlikely to do this as they will probably have realised that this is a spurious allegation and will not take it seriously.

Please take what breathing space you have left to receive expert advice on all of these issues.

If HR come to a similar conclusion to DirectDebacle above, then I think they may be minded to drop things if the Op can put an opinion forward, backed up by evidence that what happened with the manager was outside work and their jurisdiction, and the unfortunate drug references were banter revolving around the clubbing scene, taken seriously by a slightly dim (read naive) young colleague.

As an aside Anihilator as a prosecuting brief in front of Lord Denning, how long before he would have been in the cells for contempt?

DVardysShadow

robredz wrote: »

As an aside Anihilator as a prosecuting brief in front of Lord Denning, how long before he would have been in the cells for contempt?

Very quickly. I wouldn't fancy Denning's chances against Anihilator, even if Denning was judge and Anihilator was prosecution.

u264047

Aww, how sweet. Due to the content of my medical note, HR have booked me in to see the occupational health nurse on Thursday. Probably to see if i'm lying.

I'm going to ask about a drug test while i'm there I think.

robredz

DVardysShadow wrote: »

Very quickly. I wouldn't fancy Denning's chances against Anihilator, even if Denning was judge and Anihilator was prosecution.

Lord Denning would have had to send him to the cells for his own protection due to his skewed vision of the law, if the 'lator was PM instead of Gormless, hanging and flogging, and the stocks, would be the first things reinstated imho.

Anyway hope OP is bearing up, and can construct a killer submission for the defence against this increasingly ridiculous DP.

rupee99

I'd still fancy Denning, in his current state even tough he's been dead more than 10 years, against Anihilator. :rotfl:

robredz

u264047 wrote: »

Aww, how sweet. Due to the content of my medical note, HR have booked me in to see the occupational health nurse on Thursday. Probably to see if i'm lying.

I'm going to ask about a drug test while i'm there I think.

You shouldn't need a drug test, but to cover all bases, maybe worthwhile.

robredz

rupee99 wrote: »

I'd still fancy Denning, in his current state even tough he's been dead more than 10 years, against Anihilator. :rotfl:

One Denning is/was worth 10 or more of the current crop of legalistas, who play politics rather than interpret and apply the law fairly and without prejudice.

Anihilator

u264047 wrote: »

Aww, how sweet. Due to the content of my medical note, HR have booked me in to see the occupational health nurse on Thursday. Probably to see if i'm lying.

I'm going to ask about a drug test while i'm there I think.

Yes most likely, also may be setting themselves upto dismiss you for capacity.

Dont even waste your time about the drug test. Even if it would prove something its too late as substances could have left your system anyway.