15 week puppy advice

sarabe

Using reprimands during house training will often have a very detrimental effect.

Look at it from your dog's point of view.

Puppy pees in the garden, owner present, gets praise and a treat.

Puppy pees in the kitchen, owner present, gets a reprimand.

Puppy pees under the dining room table, owner not present, nothing happens

Puppy pees in the lounge, owner present, gets a reprimand

and so on.

What is your puppy learning from this?

That it is right to pee in the garden and wrong to pee indoors?

Nope.

What you pup is learning is that it is always safe to pee when the owner is not present and that when the owner is present sometimes it is rewarding and sometimes it is dangerous.

and.... the safest place to pee is under the dining room table.

Dogs have no concept of right and wrong. They are amoral so it is very unfair to reprimand them for peeing in the house because it is your fault for not taking them out.

You don't need to show your dog who is boss to teach him. It is far easier to develop a relationship based on mutual trust and understanding. The 'me boss, you dog' concept is very archaic.

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I can understand what you are saying, however, it leaves me with the problem of how do i stop him wetting in his bed/house. You say that he's peeing in the house because I'm not taking them out, I have to disagree with that. I believe I am taking him out as much as I possbily can.

I want my dog to trust me and for us to have a good relationship, however, in the mean time I'm at a loss as to how i can stop him peeing in his bed (this is what concerns me more than his having acccidents in the house) He goes out when i go to bed, i am setting my alarm to get up through the night, whilst I am asleep how can i stop him weeing or at least get him to give me a signal, this is something I can not control no matter what trust we have

SL x

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sarabe wrote: »

I agree he is still very young. It is unusual for a dog to wee and sleep in it unless he has no choice or unless he is a little insecure about where to wee.

I wouldn't expect a pup to ask to go out until he is fully house trained and even then I would be wary of going down that route.

My dogs go out on my schedule, not theirs otherwise I would end up being their butler.

Is his bed a crate or can he get away from his bed at night?

Does he get into trouble for peeing indoors?

Sorry, just seen this post..

He may be insecure, I'm not sure
If I let him go out to his schedule, unfortunatly that would mean he doesn't go out at all, the only reason I am gettin up with him as I don't like the thought of him laying in his own urine (which he appears to have no problem with)

He is in a crate, which he goes into for sleep and quite time, he's very happy to go in there, he already goes in there by his own accord when we eat ( it was something I did from the start) and often takes his toys in there to paly with, he shows no concerns about being in there at all (imo)

If I dont happen to see him i do not say anything to him, I see it as my fault for not watching him, he is after all very young, if I "catch" him peeing, I firmly say no and take him out and that's it.

SL x

sarabe

SL, sorry I was responding to the other two posters who suggested you tell him off.

I would suggest that you have him in a puppy crate beside your bed and then he wakes needing a pee you can get him out straight away rather than setting the alarm and getting up.

The chances of your getting up coinciding with him waking and needing a pee are remote and you'll not be giving him the chance to sleep all night when he is ready to.

By having him close and letting him wake naturally you will very soon wake one morning and discover that he has slept all night.

I have a lot of experience with puppies and this is by far the most reliable way to get your pup to go through the night.

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It's ok, I really do appreciate any advice. There is so much information out there, and I read so much before we got him, (grew up with dogs too) I really thought I was doing everything right.

He does sleep by my bed, well actually, interestingly enough when I realised he was peeing in his bed was when I moved him out onto the landing (vets advice, he actually told me to bite the bullet and leave him downstairs and I just couldn't do it).

That's when I really noticed his bed was wet, when I got him out in the night and it got me thinking was he wetting it all along and I'd just not realised.

SL x

sarabe

Sallylizzie wrote: »

Sorry, just seen this post..

He may be insecure, I'm not sure
If I let him go out to his schedule, unfortunatly that would mean he doesn't go out at all, the only reason I am gettin up with him as I don't like the thought of him laying in his own urine (which he appears to have no problem with)

He is in a crate, which he goes into for sleep and quite time, he's very happy to go in there, he already goes in there by his own accord when we eat ( it was something I did from the start) and often takes his toys in there to paly with, he shows no concerns about being in there at all (imo)

If I dont happen to see him i do not say anything to him, I see it as my fault for not watching him, he is after all very young, if I "catch" him peeing, I firmly say no and take him out and that's it.

SL x

Our posts are crossing.

One of the problems of giving your pup a firm no when you catch him peeing is that you are telling him off for what he is doing not where he is doing it. Until you have house trained him he cannot possibly be expected to know where the toilet is.


If you were sat on the loo and someone jumped out of the airing cupboard and yelled NO at you, you wouldn't think that the loo was the wrong place to go, you'd just check the airing cupboard first.

Is he only peeing in the crate at night?

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LOL... that actually made me belly laugh (kids think I'm bonkers now!)

I have also "caught" him peeing in his crate during the day too. His bedding is nice and soft, I do wonder if he has always wet in his crate but as he has lots of bedding, I've just not noticed (its cream... I know, silly colour choice)

SL x

Steph998

sarabe wrote: »

SL, sorry I was responding to the other two posters who suggested you tell him off.

So...your advice is to NOT 'tell off' a dog who you find peeing in the house?
See below.

Steph998

sarabe wrote: »

SL, sorry I was responding to the other two posters who suggested you tell him off.

So...your advice is to NOT 'tell off' a dog who you find peeing in the house?
Just read your other posts...and yes, its the peeing and not the where they pee that is the problem...but you obviously are used to stupid dogs.

MY dogs know fine well what they are being 'told off' for.

Peeing in the wrong place.....not simply peeing. At 13 weeks, a pup knows the difference.

Steph998

Oh Sally, the joys of dog ownership huh....

In my experience, the 'what's and where's' make no difference to a pup. You can only house train by letting the pup know what is, and is not, acceptable. I have never found a pup who is content to lie in his own pee....it is seldom found because it is so uncomfy! Just like our kids who piddle the bed and no matter the embarrassment...they just have to let you know at 3am. (Yawn....cheers)

Aw, hey you know, there are worse things. I bet he looks at you like you are his world, and gives you kisses. I bet your life has changed since you got this pup. (Earlier wake ups for one)

Enjoy