Some Advice regarding suspension?

shauniebabe

Weve contacted the CAB and they are going to deal with it for us! The advisor says theyve done almost everything procedurally wrong before even looking at the actual process and desicion!

Il keep everyone updated but it will be after xmas that it goes further!

Bamber19

olly300 wrote: »

ACAS are not interested in the alleged bullying or the other comments as that is hearsay.

Sorry to be picky but how exactly is that hearsay. The person telling ACAS the story is both the subject of the story and experienced it first hand... what they say is not hearsay. Whether it's worth telling to ACAS is obviously a different story though.

onlyforboards_2

If the store does not give employees receipts and they have no CCTV footage they will have a difficult time proving they are not avoiding paying redundancy.
Who put the items through the till?

shauniebabe

Theres no cctv and employees dont get recipts. The MIL can narrow it down to a day and approx time (within 2 hours)and she can tell the amount and who she paid (the owners sister in law). However the owner is saying that even though there is a payment for that amount around that time according to the till roll theres nothing to say that it was for this transaction!

Shes done it to avoid paying redundancy it obvious to anyone that knows the shop and woman and she is hoping taht because the MIL suffers from stress she wont fight it especially after xmas is out of the way! She didnt reckon on the rest of us though!

Plus after this is sorted il be taking it a lot further with numerous other things!

jobbingmusician

I reiterate - your MIL needs to appeal against her sacking. She should write to the employer asking for a copy of their disciplinary procedure and appeals procedure, stating that she intends to appeal.

I am glad you have the CAB to advise, and they will also be very happy if you do this! - it can only help your case, and cannot damage it in any way.

shauniebabe

Can i just ask then if we have to appeal the decision with the company/shop/owner yet she has not given us a copy of a company handbook or disciplinary procedures then how would we know this without being told by the CAB in January when we can next get a appointment, or from the great advice on here?

Also she does not want to go back to this job as she is a lot better without everything that was going on so would this be affected?

The owner has also informed the shopping centre staff and a woman that works opposite what has gone on so we will be talking it further for libel/defamantion of character or slander! To be honest though everyone said the same thing including the security guard that the owner had done it to get out of paying any redundancy! Its hard to proove though!

shauniebabe

Hi,

To let you know with this we appealed and the letter was recieved in January. We also requested a copy of the minutes and a copy of the company handbook or disciplinary procedures! We recieved 14 days approx later a letter refusing the appeal saying it should of been done within 5 days and a copy of minutes. However the minutes are full of lies that have been claimed to of been said. However these are quite obvious as they are in a different ink/pen. We havent recieved a copy of the handbook.

The cab is now helping us take it further to a Tribunal, however if you see my other thread you will see that im concerened about this because as expected the owner has told the remainding staff members that they will be made redundant before June. Now the cab say this helps our case but it wouldnt surprise me if she calls it a day before the tribunal can be heard!

Thanks for all your advice!