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Pensions Planning: The NUMBER

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  • savingholmes
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    L9XSS said:
    Done the calculations.......and I’m retiring at 60, just under 5 years to go. I’m currently managing on a salary of 21k and a mortgage. I’m about to pay off the mortgage next month, then will continue to focus on SIPP, work pension and savings.
    Coupled with a DB pension, I’m looking at a net figure of £32k pa at age 60.
    Lovely position to have put yourself in. Congratulations.
    Achieve FIRE/Mortgage Neutrality in 2030
    1) MFW Nov 21 £202K now £171.8K Equity 36.37%
    2) £2.6K Net savings after CCs 10/10/25
    3) Mortgage neutral by 06/30 (AVC £27.9K + Lump Sums DB £4.6K + (25% of SIPP 1.25K) = 34/£127.5K target 26.6% 10/10/25
    (If took bigger lump sum = 60.35K or 47.6%)
    4) FI Age 60 income target £17.1/30K 57% (if mortgage and debts repaid - need more otherwise) (If bigger lump sum £15.8/30K 52.67%)
    5) SIPP £5K updated 10/10/25
  • Kim1965
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    Mick70 said:
    for a couple ,  Im thinking  for a half decent retirement .  £30- 35k pa ?

    for a good one   +£40k
    I opened a new joint account end of December, putting in £2600 a mth and paying everything out of that, so 7 mths in we have a float just shy of £9000, so am I now starting to question whether I need as much as I first thought, we'll see how the next 5 months go
    Is 2600 your retirement target income?
    Im trying to live off mine and finding it relatively easy. The only difference is at retirement i can cut another£200 pm off and wont have any kids at uni either.
     Like you I think I could live on less. 
  • SouthCoastBoy
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    Kim1965 said:
    Mick70 said:
    for a couple ,  Im thinking  for a half decent retirement .  £30- 35k pa ?

    for a good one   +£40k
    I opened a new joint account end of December, putting in £2600 a mth and paying everything out of that, so 7 mths in we have a float just shy of £9000, so am I now starting to question whether I need as much as I first thought, we'll see how the next 5 months go
    Is 2600 your retirement target income?
    Im trying to live off mine and finding it relatively easy. The only difference is at retirement i can cut another£200 pm off and wont have any kids at uni either.
     Like you I think I could live on less. 
    Yes that is my ballpark figure, at the moment I commute 40 miles each way to work 3 days a week and have 1 child still at uni, so I am now thinking most probably 2k a mth would be enough
    It's just my opinion and not advice.
  • Assuming my mortgage was payed… in todays money £1600 a month to live ‘well’ but what about adjusting for future inflation! 

    I doubt I’ll ever get a pot big enough!
  • Kim1965
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    £1600 (21k pa less tax) as singleton would just about do it for me. Better still if it was all fully inflation proofed, got some db, wish i had more☹️. Mortgage gone😁
     There will be a lot of hesitant dc only would like to be retired out there... Sweaty bum times with the markets at the mo. May have to settle for part time 
  • Kim1965 said:

     There will be a lot of hesitant dc only would like to be retired out there... Sweaty bum times with the markets at the mo. 

    Definitely sweaty bum times with the current weather but I thought the phrase was squeaky bum time? both probably apt this weekend especially   ;)


  • NedS
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    Kim1965 said:
    £1600 (21k pa less tax) as singleton would just about do it for me. Better still if it was all fully inflation proofed, got some db, wish i had more☹️. Mortgage gone😁
     There will be a lot of hesitant dc only would like to be retired out there... Sweaty bum times with the markets at the mo. May have to settle for part time 
    A global tracker is only down around 10% year to date and at the same level it was a year ago, so I would imagine anyone with a retirement plan that's looking flaky now, probably needs to reconsider their plans.

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  • SouthCoastBoy
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    NedS said:
    Kim1965 said:
    £1600 (21k pa less tax) as singleton would just about do it for me. Better still if it was all fully inflation proofed, got some db, wish i had more☹️. Mortgage gone😁
     There will be a lot of hesitant dc only would like to be retired out there... Sweaty bum times with the markets at the mo. May have to settle for part time 
    A global tracker is only down around 10% year to date and at the same level it was a year ago, so I would imagine anyone with a retirement plan that's looking flaky now, probably needs to reconsider their plans.

    So when factoring inflation around 20% down. A pot would soon be eroded if this performance is sustained over a few years
    It's just my opinion and not advice.
  • savingholmes
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    NedS said:
    Kim1965 said:
    £1600 (21k pa less tax) as singleton would just about do it for me. Better still if it was all fully inflation proofed, got some db, wish i had more☹️. Mortgage gone😁
     There will be a lot of hesitant dc only would like to be retired out there... Sweaty bum times with the markets at the mo. May have to settle for part time 
    A global tracker is only down around 10% year to date and at the same level it was a year ago, so I would imagine anyone with a retirement plan that's looking flaky now, probably needs to reconsider their plans.

    So when factoring inflation around 20% down. A pot would soon be eroded if this performance is sustained over a few years
    Yes but that would be unusual. 
    Achieve FIRE/Mortgage Neutrality in 2030
    1) MFW Nov 21 £202K now £171.8K Equity 36.37%
    2) £2.6K Net savings after CCs 10/10/25
    3) Mortgage neutral by 06/30 (AVC £27.9K + Lump Sums DB £4.6K + (25% of SIPP 1.25K) = 34/£127.5K target 26.6% 10/10/25
    (If took bigger lump sum = 60.35K or 47.6%)
    4) FI Age 60 income target £17.1/30K 57% (if mortgage and debts repaid - need more otherwise) (If bigger lump sum £15.8/30K 52.67%)
    5) SIPP £5K updated 10/10/25
  • NedS
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    NedS said:
    Kim1965 said:
    £1600 (21k pa less tax) as singleton would just about do it for me. Better still if it was all fully inflation proofed, got some db, wish i had more☹️. Mortgage gone😁
     There will be a lot of hesitant dc only would like to be retired out there... Sweaty bum times with the markets at the mo. May have to settle for part time 
    A global tracker is only down around 10% year to date and at the same level it was a year ago, so I would imagine anyone with a retirement plan that's looking flaky now, probably needs to reconsider their plans.

    So when factoring inflation around 20% down. A pot would soon be eroded if this performance is sustained over a few years
    I would think it would be reasonable to expect to encounter events twice as severe as that over the duration of retirement, so any plan should have no difficulty coping with a 10% or 20% drawdown.
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