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Pensions Planning: The NUMBER

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  • LAPORTS1
    LAPORTS1 Posts: 22 Forumite
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    Understandable, but perhaps not optimal from a tax perspective

    Very true. I thought about rearranging the current mortgage payments but I do like the peace of mind of wholly owning my own place.
  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,731 Forumite
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    LAPORTS1 wrote: »
    Just thought I'd push this thread to the front again with a small twist.

    Current Number
    Age : 44
    Total Saved : £152,000
    Saving ~£900 per month

    Target Number
    Retirement Age : 60
    Target Retirement Number: £650,000

    I'll be up-ing the monthly contribution once the mortgage is paid off in 6 years.

    Interested to see what everyone else's situation is

    Where is the 152K saved?

    Spouse? Dependents?
  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,731 Forumite
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    demonloop wrote: »
    Current Number
    Age : 40
    Total Saved : £300000 (in BTL mostly)

    Target Number
    Retirement Age : 55
    Target Retirement Number: £1.2m

    No mortgage since 2016, and with a saleable business (hopefully)

    If I owned a business, i'd not be in BTL (tax inefficient) and I'd be making company contributions to my pension instead.
  • LAPORTS1
    LAPORTS1 Posts: 22 Forumite
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    Where is the 152K saved?

    Spouse? Dependents?

    It is saved across several SIPPs invested in various mid-to-high risk fund at the minute.

    There is also a rainy day fund of about £5000 and a small savings account

    Spouse and 3 kids (3rd level education on the horizon)
  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,731 Forumite
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    So is some of that money set aside for helping the kids thru Uni?

    5K is far too small an emergency pot IMHO.
  • Northamptonblue
    Northamptonblue Posts: 33 Forumite
    edited 1 August 2018 at 5:49PM
    This was always my favourite thread when I was debating early retirement so thought I would join in after retiring 12 months ago at 59. Wife still working so we have her work related costs and are still running two cars. We also have another house close to elderly relatives with a running cost of about £4K a year (we do not rent it out). This years spend came in at £31K. We have deliberately not skimped because I wanted to see if the £33K budget was realistic. Clearly it is and any excess once we go to one car and one house will be spent on days out and weekends in hotels which is a favourite thing for both of us. We do have a couple of major holidays planned when wife retires and we can choose our dates (she is a school teacher). Savings, sale of the second house plus downsizing should leave around £250K so plenty of leeway to be a bit extravagant. Income is DB and state pension, rising to over £40K when wife reached SPA. Younger son just started his sixth year at uni. I think we are very lucky and we just hope that we can enjoy some good health to let us enjoy retirement.
  • JoeEngland
    JoeEngland Posts: 445 Forumite
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    Gatser wrote: »
    The NUMBER is how much income you need to "live comfortably"
    So What's your number?
    Very important for pensions planning, to know what you are aiming for.

    My Number? (for a couple)
    I calculated: £22,000
    based on
    Food £5,000
    Car/transport £5,000
    Bills/Utilities £4,500
    Holidays/Leisure £4,500
    Clothing/Cash/Xmas/Other £2,000
    Repairs/replacements £1,000

    For us it's 17-17.5k a year: 11-11.5k for essentials and 6k for discretionary spending, with some contingency available on top of that. The wife is likely to work PT after I give up work, and I might consider some PT work, or if the finances got a bit tricky I might try and do some occasional contracting.
  • demonloop
    demonloop Posts: 38 Forumite
    atush wrote: »
    If I owned a business, i'd not be in BTL (tax inefficient) and I'd be making company contributions to my pension instead.

    The BTLs are in a separate Ltd Co, and I draw no income from it. The income will accumulate and be reinvested.

    My main Business makes a company contribution to my pension every year, but I feel more comfortable generally in BTL, and I really enjoy managing it. I wouldn’t be comfortable with 300k-1.2m in the markets. Each to their own though.
  • unkle
    unkle Posts: 338 Forumite
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    Current Number
    Age : 46
    Total Saved : £488,000 in SIPP, £190,000 in ISA's
    Saving ~£600 per month

    Target Number
    Retirement Age : 55
    Target Retirement Number: £850,000

    Pay little into pension now due to tax inefficiency after £10k, so filling up ISA's (S&S).
  • DairyQueen
    DairyQueen Posts: 1,855 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    unkle wrote: »
    Current Number
    Age : 46
    Total Saved : £488,000 in SIPP, £190,000 in ISA's
    Saving ~£600 per month

    Target Number
    Retirement Age : 55
    Target Retirement Number: £850,000

    Pay little into pension now due to tax inefficiency after £10k, so filling up ISA's (S&S).
    Have you calculated your likely income needs?
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