Second hand car from dealer with MOT Advisories

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I looked at the tyres before buying the car and I did notice the front offside tyre was worn. Anyway after looking again in the light today it turns out they have changed the tyre. All I'm bothered about now is the service book stamp.

Thanks

harveybobbles

As a motor dealer, we don't like having "advice notes" issued with MOT's. So we ask the MOT place to fail a car on something simple like a bulb or tyre, issue the fail slip ANd issue an advice note - then when they print the pass cert off, the advice note gets removed from the system.

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I checked the past MOT history and there is no fails on the online system at least.

mikey72

harveybobbles wrote: »

As a motor dealer, we don't like having "advice notes" issued with MOT's. So we ask the MOT place to fail a car on something simple like a bulb or tyre, issue the fail slip ANd issue an advice note - then when they print the pass cert off, the advice note gets removed from the system.

Don't they like you much, or trust you?
Why not ask them to put the car through the MOT, tell you verbally if it will have advisories, then issue a cert through the system if it passes.

anewman

harveybobbles wrote: »

As a motor dealer, we don't like having "advice notes" issued with MOT's. So we ask the MOT place to fail a car on something simple like a bulb or tyre, issue the fail slip ANd issue an advice note - then when they print the pass cert off, the advice note gets removed from the system.

A good MOT tester will check the advisories and re-issue the advisory certificate, or if an advisory has got to being a fail then it will get another fail.

harveybobbles

mikey72 wrote: »

Don't they like you much, or trust you?
Why not ask them to put the car through the MOT, tell you verbally if it will have advisories, then issue a cert through the system if it passes.

Cos they are a good garage and understand how annoying it can be to us to have a whingey a customer who wants a brand new car for secondhand money.

harveybobbles

anewman wrote: »

A good MOT tester will check the advisories and re-issue the advisory certificate, or if an advisory has got to being a fail then it will get another fail.

Not if they issue the advice note with a fail sheet. They will just check to failed item and issue a pass cert.

mikey72

harveybobbles wrote: »

Cos they are a good garage and understand how annoying it can be to us to have a whingey a customer who wants a brand new car for secondhand money.

Premier_2

harveybobbles wrote: »

As a motor dealer, we don't like having "advice notes" issued with MOT's. So we ask the MOT place to fail a car on something simple like a bulb or tyre, issue the fail slip ANd issue an advice note - then when they print the pass cert off, the advice note gets removed from the system.

A decent MOT tester will not fail a car if it isn't a failure for fear of having numerous appeals lodged against them, and possibly them having their MOT testing authority revoked.

Whilst much of the MOT is a subjective assessment, the two issues you suggest are not.
A failed bulb on a testable item is a failure. A failed bulb on a non-testable item is not a failure (but may be an advisory)

Similarly, tyre tread depth is a measurable, objective characteristic (although there are some subjective requirements relating to tyres).

If you have come to a dodgy arrangement with your tester, that's between you and the tester, but surely a better arrangement would be to not fail the vehicle at all (i.e. not record it as tested if it was going to fail) or agree for them not to issue any advisories if they are inclined to bend the rules for you.

Premier_2

harveybobbles wrote: »

Not if they issue the advice note with a fail sheet. They will just check to failed item and issue a pass cert.

The MOT rules specify the limited occassions only a retest of the failed item is permissible, as opposed to a complete vehicle re-test.

... but you have already explained how your MOT tester fails to follow the rules.