csa are going to take NRP maintenance without his consent

blimey40

Found his payslips, pull the other one:rotfl:

Sounds like your out to get him, good on ya, but found them in your daughters bag,,your having a laugh.

Just to add, Baliffs can only do anything if it his property or legally a tenant, otherwise as the above poster says, it will go back to the CSA.

Kimitatsu

pd001 wrote: »

And to follow on....
if the bailiffs then turn up at his girlfriends place and he is actually living with her?.. then all his girlfriend has to say is that everything in 'her' house actually belongs to her and not him.

End of bailiffs..they will send case back to the csa and they will look to take further enforcement action

Not quite - she will have to prove that all of the items there are hers, if she cannot and the bailiff has just cause to believe that they are his then they can legally be seized. Bear in mind as well if it is not a private bailiff and is a court bailiff they have power of entry, they do not need to have a walking posession order to be signed. Court bailiffs also have power of arrest so they may also choose to arrest him on sight and produce him before the court if he refuses to disclose his address details or continually refuses to pay (always good if it is a Friday night and court does not sit until Monday morning)

blimey40 wrote: »

Found his payslips, pull the other one:rotfl:

Sounds like your out to get him, good on ya, but found them in your daughters bag,,your having a laugh.

Just to add, Baliffs can only do anything if it his property or legally a tenant, otherwise as the above poster says, it will go back to the CSA.

Doesnt matter where they are - proof for the CSA is what is important

DUTR

Kimitatsu wrote: »

Not quite - she will have to prove that all of the items there are hers, if she cannot and the bailiff has just cause to believe that they are his then they can legally be seized.

As well as it reading as none sense, it does not seem logical, otherwise baliffs everywhere can just go around seizing what they wish 'just because' they think it belongs to whoever's assests they are trying to retrieve.

speedster

Kimitatsu wrote: »

Not quite - she will have to prove that all of the items there are hers, if she cannot and the bailiff has just cause to believe that they are his then they can legally be seized. Bear in mind as well if it is not a private bailiff and is a court bailiff they have power of entry, they do not need to have a walking posession order to be signed. Court bailiffs also have power of arrest so they may also choose to arrest him on sight and produce him before the court if he refuses to disclose his address details or continually refuses to pay (always good if it is a Friday night and court does not sit until Monday morning)

not quite.

for starters they have no powers of entry if they have previously been denied access. end of. only customs can do that.

secondly, if he isn't registered there, then the bailiffs have even less rights.

what you have to remember is that bailiffs rely on bully tactics to get results. they tend to back off whan you quote "actual" law at them.

the OFT websirte has a very interesting "guide" as to what they can and cant do.

atwitsend_2

blimey40 wrote: »

Found his payslips, pull the other one:rotfl:

Sounds like your out to get him, good on ya, but found them in your daughters bag,,your having a laugh.

I am 100 % serious, there was a bundle of opened post in my daughters change bag :rotfl: maybe next time he will be more carefult where he leaves his letters :T

kaya

a proven and tested bailiff killer, all they need to do is fill one of theese out and the bailiffs go away
NAME OF BAILIFF OR AUTHORITY
ADDRESS LINE 1
ADDRESS LINE 2
ADDRESS LINE 3
POSTCODE
DATE
Dear Sir/Madam
Re: [YOUR NAME]: Notice of Ownership

I write on the understanding you or your firm of bailiffs has seized, or is intending to seize chattels, vehicles, goods, or property belonging to me at the above-mentioned address in respect of an alleged debt belonging to somebody else.
I confirm that I am the lawful owner of the aforesaid and there is no entitlement enabling you to change ownership, possession, location, use and enjoyment of my property by way of a levy or a walking possession agreement.
This document is delivered by Royal Mail and I deem it to be served on you by the ordinary course of post in the meaning of Section 7 of the Interpretation Act 1978 and therefore your responsibility and your own interests this letter is handed to the relevant person within your organisation.
Any attempt to subvert or rebuke this notice will result in an invalid levy and I will automatically file at court a Form 4 complaint with an application for costs against the certificated bailiff without contacting you further in this matter.

Yours Sincerely

YOUR NAME

tried and tested personally, sent them one after the first demand for an unlawfull liability order granted to the csa by the local magistrates court for £20,000-that was about 6 months ago and i haven't heard a peep from the draconian bell-ends since :-)

ETA please excuse my spelling as i have taken many pain killers today, i know there are some spelling and punctuation police just looking for posts like mine!

DUTR

atwitsend wrote: »

I am 100 % serious, there was a bundle of opened post in my daughters change bag :rotfl: maybe next time he will be more carefult where he leaves his letters :T

It's not an attack, but is it not illegal to open royal mail post addressed to somebody else , where the intended recipient still exists? http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061023123702AABq6Sw , or act upon the content if it is detrimental to the recipient.

custardy

DUTR wrote: »

It's not an attack, but is it not illegal to open royal mail post addressed to somebody else , where the intended recipient still exists? http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061023123702AABq6Sw , or act upon the content if it is detrimental to the recipient.

at what point do you deem a letter mail?
if we are talking about a letter thats been delivered,opened by the addressee and then put aside its long past the point of being covered by the postal regulations really

DUTR

custardy wrote: »

at what point do you deem a letter mail?
if we are talking about a letter thats been delivered,opened by the addressee and then put aside its long past the point of being covered by the postal regulations really

As the letter was not addressed to the OP, then as I understand they are not able to act upon it's content to the detriment of the recipient
"A person commits an offence if, intending to act to a person's detriment and without reasonable excuse, opens a postal packet which they know or suspect to have been delivered incorrectly."

That is all sidetracking from the OP's query but does raise the quaetion to if the CSA can act upon the information contained , as they have to collate the information from the NRP.
PS I'm not in the legal profession btw.

atwitsend_2

They simply asked me for his employers details, address etc, and I just gave them the details i knew his previous one from when we were together anyway. I knew his NI number also from when we were together also, so I gave them that, from that they can chase his employment records themselves.
They contacted his employer themselves and got all the relevant info from them regarding his wages, I never gave them details of how much he was earning, just what company he was employed by