Can it end?..and how?

tombtabard

Looking for some advice before contacting CSA. My daughter is now 18 and in full time uni. My understanding is that the CSA payments can stop now (obviously i'll give her cash instead). But how do they stop? Do i contact them or does the PWC contact them?

I am very wary as tbh i have not had a re-assessment in 12 years! I have changed jobs and my income has increased to a point now where my wife and current daughter (and one on the way) can get by, I have always informed them of an address change, but had no 2 yearly assessment. All parties involved with the CSA (daughter and ex) were happy with the amount paid (by Direct Debit to CSA) and to be fair didnt want to crucify me as the CSA literally made me homeless (slept in my car, friends floors etc for a few months).

so really i am wondering-
-Who contacts the CSA to stop there meddling...erm sorry input! And if I was to would this incur an automatic re-assessment?

- Do you have to inform them of a change of employer or income if they have not asked for this information?

- Can I accrue arrears by not informing them of an increase in income bearing in mind I have never been asked to supply this information or employer information? Although I have always provided my address.

- If i do accrue arrears will this be from my last assessment i.e. 1997 or is it from when they ask for it?

- Also if i wait until my daughte is 19 will payment automatically stop as my understanding is this is the limit that can be paid?

cheers folks

DX2

The PWC should inform the CSA that she no longer gets child benefit for the child and that should stop the CSA payments, assuming you have no outstanding arrears. Of course there is nothing stopping you from informing them also.

speedster

pretty sure she can claim CB till daughter is 19 if in education, so you're liable till then.

if pwc relationship is ammicable, perhaps you could come to an arrangement to help daughter with fees or books, rent...... beer etc!!

Loopy_Girl

You only have to advise the CSA of an increase of salary of asked. This is true unless you are on a DEO which, reading your post, I don't think you are.

If the PWC asked for a reassement in the past 12 years then you would have had to have gave a true reflection of your salary.

You have done nothing wrong by not telling them as there is no legal obligation to do so.

shell_542

Child Benefit is not paid for children in advanced education ... ie. Degrees. The OP's daughter is at uni, so possibly studying for a degree so the PWC shouldn't be in receipt of Child Benefit if that's the case.

I don't believe they can backdate any income increases if neither you nor the PWC has requested a reassessment in the past ... and as you've kept them up to date with your change of addresses, they should have been able to contact you if a reassessment had been asked for by the PWC.

If your daughter is doing a degree at Uni, then you should be able to contact the CSA to advise them. They will then confirm this with the PWC.

Loopy_Girl

Shell is correct (sorry, I just skimmed your post and answered what I thought was the most pressing worry you had!)

Uni is NOT classed as further education and your daughter is no longer considered a child eligible for CB which means that your liabilty via the CSA will stop and you can come to your arrangement with her

DUTR

My brother is /was in a similar situation, he was going to give the csa an ear load , I suggested he stay calm and just ask (be reminded of the rules) once he was told, he then informed he believes he is no longer liable for cs payments, the agent agreed and a month of payment and cease of liability is no in progress.

blimey40

Can someone just clarify, If daughter or son goes to university what age does the NRP pay up to, if the PWC gets benefits?

speedster

i thought it was 19?

but not sure as it seems uni doesn't count as full time ed?

DX2

Child maintenance is payable all the time that Child Benefit is being paid and the child is:

• aged under 16; or
• under 19 and in full-time non-advanced education

The definition of full time education is more than 12 hours a week of study on a course up to and including A level standard. Some examples of non-advanced education are:
Non - Advanced Education

• GCE / GCSE - A level / AS level / O level
• SCE Higher Grade or equivalent
• GNVQ / NVQ levels 1 2 & 3
• BTEC National Diploma
• SCOTVEC National Certificate
• Scottish Certificate of 6th Year Studies
• Foundation Arts Course
• Secretarial Course with GCSE entry
• NNEB
• Hairdressing Courses

This list is not exhaustive
If the child is in advanced or higher education they would no longer qualify for child maintenance. Some examples of advanced and higher education are:
Advanced Education and Higher Education

• Degree
• NVQ level 4 and above
• DHE
• HND
• BTEC HNC / HND
• SCOTVEC HNC / HND
• Teacher Training

When a child leaves full time education in the summer, Child Benefit generally continues until the first week of September.
If your child leaves full time education please let us know.
http://www.csa.gov.uk/en/case/leaving-education.asp

Child benefit: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/childbenefit/keep-up-to-date/when-child-aged-16/further-education.htm#1

shell_542

speedster wrote: »

i thought it was 19?

but not sure as it seems uni doesn't count as full time ed?

Uni is full time education ... but it isn't NON ADVANCED EDUCATION. It is classes as ADVANCED EDUCATION.

Child benefit and Child Support is only payable when a child is in non advanced education.

Sooo ...

blimey40 wrote: »

Can someone just clarify, If daughter or son goes to university what age does the NRP pay up to, if the PWC gets benefits?

As in DX2's link, if a child was at college, doing a non advanced education course finishing in the summer of (lets say for example) July 2010 and then going on to Uni in September ... the NRP would pay up to the first week of September, which is when the child benefit would stop too.