Our purchaser has an Islamic mortgage

I am the vendor and my solicitor wrote the following:

"Their mortgage is an Islamic mortgage. The way that these work is that the buyer contracts to buy the property but then assigns the beneift of this agreement to the Bank between exchange and completion, so that you effectively sell to the Bank, who then let the property back to the Buyer. I assume that you are happy with this arrangement as the same purchase price will be paid and you are not required to do anything more. Please confirm."

can anyone tell me more about islamic mortgages? does this mean the bank is stepping in to buy the property?
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  • sockpuppetuk
    sockpuppetuk Posts: 334 Forumite
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2525635.stm
    interesting piece there all about them
  • Emmzi
    Emmzi Posts: 8,658 Forumite
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    Basically yes. Under Islam, you cannot borrow money. so the bank buy and 'rent' the property for, oh, 25 years or so. Then hand it over as a present.

    Shouldn't be a problem.
    Debt free 4th April 2007.
    New house. Bigger mortgage. MFWB after I have my buffer cash in place.
  • nomoneytoday
    nomoneytoday Posts: 4,871 Forumite
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    It's fine. Due to islamic law you cannot lend or borrow, so this is a way for people to buy property :)
  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
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    There's no financial reason for you not to agree.
  • ManAtHome
    ManAtHome Posts: 8,512 Forumite
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    I think you're ok lending and borrowing as long as it's interest-free. Alternative mortgage is for the bank to buy the house, say £100k then sell it interest-free for say £200k (making a profit from trading is ok).
  • Joe_Bloggs
    Joe_Bloggs Posts: 4,535 Forumite
    Off topic I know.
    Can the purchasers have shares in the bank like those who buy with a building society ? This way they get a say like many others in the same position as to how the bank is managed.
    J_B.
  • nmiah786
    nmiah786 Posts: 577 Forumite
    crisp wrote:
    I am the vendor and my solicitor wrote the following:

    "Their mortgage is an Islamic mortgage. The way that these work is that the buyer contracts to buy the property but then assigns the beneift of this agreement to the Bank between exchange and completion, so that you effectively sell to the Bank, who then let the property back to the Buyer. I assume that you are happy with this arrangement as the same purchase price will be paid and you are not required to do anything more. Please confirm."

    can anyone tell me more about islamic mortgages? does this mean the bank is stepping in to buy the property?

    I dont think the fact that the buyer has a Islamic mortgage makes any difference to you financially as a seller. Maybe the solicitor is just informing you! Dont know why they have highlighted to you though!

    Paying or receiving Interest is Haram (forbidden and sinfull) in Islam, this makes a traditional mortgage Haram. Islamic Mortgages is a new thing in the UK. There are quite a few products here but the opinion is divided amongst Muslim whether it is trully Islamic. The available products are being constantly refined to make it more Islamic, so hopefully one day in the not so distant future we might have trully Islamic Mortgage products widely available and accepted by all Muslims.


    The common form of Islamic mortgages here works like this;

    Buyer agrees a price with the Vendor.
    Buyer informs the lender about the property.
    Bank buys the property for the buyer.
    Bank then sells the property to the buyers at an agreed increase in price.
    Buyer pays a monthly payment to the bank.
    A percentage of the payment comes off the capital and the rest is classified as rent ( a bit like Shared Ownership).
    As more and more comes of the capital the percentage paid as rent reduces until it becomes nil.
    The bank the passes the property over to the buyers.

    HTH and hope I havent confused things:eek:
    Debt at highest (November 2005) = £35,856

    Debt currently (August 2006) = £20,790
    &More £1,530, Egg £6,800, HSBC £3,760, Egg Loan £8,700

    Interim goal = £23,400 (Target: February 2006, Missed but acheived May 2006)
    2nd Interim Goal = £15,000, Target October 2006
    Debt Free Date = February 2008 BUT I'M GOING TO BE TRYING FOR SOONER!!! :p
  • annie-c
    annie-c Posts: 2,542 Forumite
    Agree with others - the Islamic mortgage is a new way for banks to sell 'mortgages' to Islamic customers - you have nothing to worry about - and neither has the lender.
  • crisp
    crisp Posts: 435 Forumite
    thanks for the replies.

    my solicitor only highlighted it because the banks/buyers solicitors want me to now ok it. the bank is a mainstream bank. why they want me to ok it now shortly before exchange, rather than not ask in the last three weeks while we have been waiting is really sloppy.

    well I wish I had know earlier as its now causing silly delays. we have been ready to exchange for 3 weeks, but the mortgage had to be amended. the estate agent has put down the delay to it being an Islamic mortgage; but why the admin to change the mortgage offer should take any longer than a normal mortgage I know not why unless someone at the bank is a bit slow redoing the sums.

    Its particularly frustrating, as I turned down another buyer.

    it all sounds a bit "technical" for in the end the buyer borrows money and gets the house and the bank lends and makes a profit.
  • itn
    itn Posts: 94 Forumite
    it shouldnt take longer to complete then any other conventional mortgage, ive taken an islamic mortgage through hsbc amanah finance. The advisor informed me that they are selling twice as many islamic mortgages then standard conventional mortgage. The paperwork is different to a conventoinal mortgage so the delay maybe with the solicitors for the buyers. The solicitor dealing needs to know what he is doing and so can sort out the paperwork asap. As previous the bank and buyer of house are joint owners of the property, and you in effect rent property from the bank until the period is over.

    regards

    itn
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