Is 1000 kWh too much

Cardew

Fire_Fox wrote: »

It's a modern two bedroom flat not a house! No need to be anywhere near £1500 with so many neighbours for insulation: my north-facing flat rarely falls below 15C and is noticably warmer than the communal corridors. :cool:

They want to keep their flat at 23C.

I want to keep the living rooms I use in my house at around that temperature 21C to 23C

15C to most people is totally unacceptable - a health risk.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5372296.stm

The average household uses 20,500kWh gas and 3,300kWh electricity and pay around £1300pa. Gas is way way cheaper than electricity.

If the average efficiency of a gas boiler is, say, 75% then to compare gas to electricity we are talking about 15,300kWh for heating and hot water.

That is a total of 18,600kWh electricity for the average user. That will be in the order of £2000 pa.

So to say £1500 per year for an all electric flat heated to acceptable guidelines is perfectly reasonable IMO.

The OP's question was not how can I cut down my bills, but if approx 2,000kWh from 17 Sept to 23 Nov was too much, and IMO it is perfectly reasonable.

Fire_Fox

Cardew wrote: »

They want to keep their flat at 23C.

I want to keep the living rooms I use in my house at around that temperature 21C to 23C

15C to most people is totally unacceptable - a health risk.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5372296.stm

So to say £1500 per year for an all electric flat heated to acceptable guidelines is perfectly reasonable IMO.

The OP's question was not how can I cut down my bills, but if approx 2,000kWh from 17 Sept to 23 Nov was too much, and IMO it is perfectly reasonable.

Goodness I wasn't suggesting anyone would want to live with an ambient temperature of 15C, even I think that is icy and I'd put the heating on! Just that 15C is the lowest point I ever need to start heating from IYSWIM. In an unheated house you would easily expect the air to get far colder in the depths of winter, so any heating would have to work harder to build up and maintain an acceptable temperature.

The only flat dwellers I know that are paying £1500 a year are my parents, who are retired so heat their duplex apartment freely and are signed up to (blooming expensive) Good Energy! This made me think the OP wanted to cut down their bills:
"4000kWh per yr. is awsome. The way we are going, we'd triple that
- I am really not sure what's wrong: are we too inefficient or is there something with the meter. "

Cardew

Fire Fox,

Don't forget that the average customer with gas CH still used 3,300 just on electricity; many on this forum use much more - and that doesn't depend on size of property.
So 600kWh to 1000kWh of the 2000kWh the OP used in the nine and a half weeks could have been used on non heating/HW electricity.

Fire_Fox

Cardew wrote: »

Fire Fox,

Don't forget that the average customer with gas CH still used 3,300 just on electricity; many on this forum use much more - and that doesn't depend on size of property.
So 600kWh to 1000kWh of the 2000kWh the OP used in the nine and a half weeks could have been used on non heating/HW electricity.

Absolutely agree: in sixty six days we'd use around 660KWH including hot water but not heating. We do laundry at 40C, don't use a tumble dryer, have one of each of the usual gadgets but a stupid number of 50W halogen lamps (which I am shocking for leaving on), so this could be reduced but it's a lot of outlay and hassle for little reward TBH.

I used 7.5KWH per day my first six months in the flat (winter, just me, hot water, no heating), averaged 11.5KWH per day the following winter (two of us, hot water, no heating), currently down to 9.5KWH per day I guess because we use less lighting in summer and I fitted a ShowerSmart.