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  • lkalka wrote: »
    Theres nothing directly to the other side, it's just a driveway and then 3.8 metres to the side of their house.

    I doubt the two storeys will be an issue. I replaced a single storey garage with a two storey extension in an AONB (stricter planning control!!!) three years ago.

    Right to light is not automatic and not a planning issue in any event. Light is 360 degrees anyway and doesn't only originate from the direction of your property ;)

    Nothing to lose by talking to planning about it
    Warning ..... I'm a peri-menopausal axe-wielding maniac ;)
  • dander
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    Em...replacing an old prefab concrete garage with a solid brick attached garage including a kitchen extension isn't "like for like", it's knocking down a prefab garage to make space for an extension to the house! "Like for like" would be replacing the garage with a modern prefab garage.

    Going on the size, you should be within permitted development rights, but not if you do two stories, but there are all kinds of reasons why councils can remove permitted development rights, so you need to check it out - and particularly if your neighbours have concerns, it is worth your while to do everything by the book.
  • lkalka
    lkalka Posts: 205 Forumite
    edited 22 November 2009 at 1:07PM
    dander wrote: »
    Em...replacing an old prefab concrete garage with a solid brick attached garage including a kitchen extension isn't "like for like", it's knocking down a prefab garage to make space for an extension to the house! "Like for like" would be replacing the garage with a modern prefab garage.

    Going on the size, you should be within permitted development rights, but not if you do two stories, but there are all kinds of reasons why councils can remove permitted development rights, so you need to check it out - and particularly if your neighbours have concerns, it is worth your while to do everything by the book.

    Hi Dander, what I meanet is 'like for like' size wise. The garage at the moment is 8.1 x 2.6 and is attached to the house.

    The 'new' construction will be exactly the same size and position..

    I did have a local builder around this morning who does deal with planning quite bit and he was optimistic the 2 storey would get passed because I'd set the 2nd storey back 1.5 m.

    I spoke to him about the neighbour/scaffolding issue, he assured me they would still be able to get in their drive and that they would 'put anything good' that they damaged (if they would put this in writting is another matter). They also said that the scaffolding would only need to be up for 4 weeks (of the 12 week job). In fact of all the builders I've spoken to he came across very well (I've not seen his quote yet though!).
  • wuckfit
    wuckfit Posts: 544 Forumite
    I think you'll definitely need planning permission. If only for pieee of mind when/if you sell the property, the prospective new owners (or their solicitor) will seek assurances against the council suddenly demanding that it be knocked down if they refuse retrospective planning permission.
    Better to be safe than sorry.
  • The new planning laws which came in this year say that all new builds must be 1 meter away from the boundary you might get away with a like for like build but any additions will come under the new rules, you will also need to complete a party wall form with your neighbours also there is a minimum size for the garage width. the best thing to do is do a sketch with the measurements and take it to your locial plannning office.
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