Cost of trains

geordieracer

dzug1 wrote: »

It's not the same journey

1Haven't a clue about 2 - it's not in the list of fares. Do ticket machines sell tickets for the next day anyway? I didn't think they did but ICBW
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Ours do this but only after 3/4 pm.

kolin_2

I had to take last minute train journey the other day to manchester, cost me £12.20 for a day return, if i'd have put £12.20 of diesel in my car I could have driven from home->manchester->-home->manchester and halfway home (it's around 30-40 miles from manchester)

i'm not surprised people are still choosing to use the car. A few years ago, the same journey would have cost me a more reasonable £8 something.

i'm sick of prices going up everywhere, when wages aren't (or going the opposite way).

semi-rant over.

DaveMacD

kolin wrote: »

i'm sick of prices going up everywhere, when wages aren't (or going the opposite way).

+1. Completely agree.

Premier_2

kolin wrote: »

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i'm sick of prices going up everywhere, when wages aren't (or going the opposite way)...

DaveMacD wrote: »

+1. Completely agree.

Good job then that regulated rail fares which include season tickets are coming down by 0.4% in January

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2082069 (post#15)

DKLS

Good price, I regularly pay £240 from Wakefield to London rtn, to travel on the day, luckily I can claim it back as part of the project.

DaveMacD

Premier wrote: »

Good job then that regulated rail fares which include season tickets are coming down by 0.4% in January

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2082069 (post#15)

Train fares don't affect me, I was just agreeing that wages aren't going up, but prices are, and that really sucks :mad:

Altarf

DaveMacD wrote: »

It's also a pain for everyone else if you decide to sit somewhere else as there is then a reserved seat that no-one knows is not wanted, and stops other folk from taking it.

Only if they don't read the seat reservation ticket.

The reservation is from X to Y, and once the train has left X (plus a bit of time for someone to find their seat), if the seat reservation has not been claimed it expires.

Anyway I tend to do it on trains where 90% of the train is empty, but the inteligent train company system that allocates seat reservations has put the only 10 passengers on the train all togerther in one corner.

kolin_2

Premier wrote: »

Good job then that regulated rail fares which include season tickets are coming down by 0.4% in January

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2082069 (post#15)

"unregulated fares (including cheap day returns) will be rising much higher, with rail unions fearing hikes of 10% on some tickets."

so i'm assuming that my day return to manchester that i bought at the ticket office, could rise from 12.20 to £13.40, for the obvious reason that we've all become suddenly richer and are secure in our jobs come january, and that an extra hike wont be noticed in our wallets?

geordieracer

The issue of your wages should not come into this discussion. It is something between youorself and your employer whether or not your wages go up. The price of goods has steadily risen since bartering with goats or something started so it bares no relation to the price of tickets going up. though rail staff wages will inevitably go up so fares have to rise to cover that and the shareholders bonuses too.

DaveMacD

geordieracer wrote: »

though rail staff wages will inevitably go up so fares have to rise to cover that and the shareholders bonuses too.

Dunno about that. My wages aren't scheduled to rise any time soon.

The thing about rail fares is that they generally only get reviewed at certain times of the year (in my area, there is this one coming up, and then the local authority reviews prices later on in the year) but the prices of things like diesel/electricity alter throughout the year. If you look at a TOC as a huge version of a family household, the same rules apply. Outgoings have increased, so there has to be a corresponding increase in income to cover those rises. Don't think for a second that the massive diesel price hike the other year only hurt car drivers (and boy did it hurt.... £1.30 a litre for diesel, and a 75 litre tank are not happy bedfellows:mad:), nor that the electric companies bumping their prices only affected those with massive flat screen tv's...