We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

30 years service and forced to resign

24

Comments

  • timmmers wrote: »
    Being accused of a theft you didn't do, your name blackened and all future work made really hard to find ...that's not a loaded gun??

    I was taling preverbally not literally!

    :rolleyes:
    When dealing with the CSA its important to note that it is commonly accepted as unfit for purpose, and by default this also means the staff are unfit for purpose.
  • ceebeeby
    ceebeeby Posts: 4,357 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture
    The poor man - that's absolutely awful!

    As well as all the other employment suggestions being given, as the OP is a police officer, is there some form of bullying / harrassment going on that could warrant a uniformed visit to the garage under the guise of investigating the incident - or is this purely civil?

    I so hope things work out for this poor man - who after all, must only be what, late forties, early fifties ... shocking!
  • ceebeeby
    ceebeeby Posts: 4,357 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture
    Oooh, oooh, I think I've got it. Could the OP investigate the alleged theft, as that might come under criminal, and then tell garage person, no theft???
  • Horace
    Horace Posts: 14,426 Forumite
    The link to acas is https://www.acas.gov.uk
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    ceebeeby wrote: »
    The poor man - that's absolutely awful!

    As well as all the other employment suggestions being given, as the OP is a police officer, is there some form of bullying / harrassment going on that could warrant a uniformed visit to the garage under the guise of investigating the incident - or is this purely civil?
    ceebeeby wrote: »
    Oooh, oooh, I think I've got it. Could the OP investigate the alleged theft, as that might come under criminal, and then tell garage person, no theft???

    That is plain barmy. OP going in uniform for a private matter. OP would rightly be sacked.
    Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam
  • olias
    olias Posts: 3,588 Forumite
    And it would seriously jepordise any tribunal the man has! Silly idea.

    Olias
  • Anihilator
    Anihilator Posts: 2,169 Forumite
    To add though gettting permission to borrow something after the fact has limited use.

    Has he asked the employer if they will let him go back. It may be now that employer knows the other party was happy it wasnt theft they will let him withdraw the resignation.
  • N9eav
    N9eav Posts: 4,742 Forumite
    ceebeeby wrote: »
    Oooh, oooh, I think I've got it. Could the OP investigate the alleged theft, as that might come under criminal, and then tell garage person, no theft???

    There is no theft or loser, never was. It was a contrived offence that served the purpose of forcing the person to resign. There is no doubt some personality issues or something else exists, as why would you not readily sort the matter out so that a long serving employee can return to work.
    When you give 30 years of your life to a local business and they treat you like that would you want to beg your job back?
    The only reason to rescind the resignation is to do what Lazy Daisy said..... and then to try and take them to the cleaners
    NO to pasty tax We won!!!! Just shows that people power works! Don't be apathetic to your cause!
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Anihilator wrote: »
    To add though gettting permission to borrow something after the fact has limited use..

    That's true - but if it was the case that these two workmates had an understanding that they could borrow each others tools, and had done from time to time, then he might reasonably believe that he already had permission. The workmate has confirmed that he had permission to borrow the tool, and that as far as he was concerned there was no theft.

    In any event the 'resign or be sacked' tactic, is always going to land the employer in hot water (provided the tribunal believes that's what happenned) because it is up to the employer to carry out a thorough investigation and come to a fair and reasonable decision based on the facts of that investigation. Otherwise the dismissal is likely to be unfair on procedural grounds.

    Trying to get round this by forcing the employee to resign just doesn't work because the law views that as a dismissal by the employer, so it is a risky strategy for an employer - hence the need to get the facts down on paper in a letter to the employer, and see how they respond (their letter in reply might help OP's friend, depening what it says).
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    The workmate has confirmed that he had permission to borrow the tool, and that as far as he was concerned there was no theft.
    And for me that absolutely trumps anything the employer says.
    Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 601K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 259.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.