1.2 million households get £15,000 in benefits

mitchaa

Doesn't include child tax credits?

They are the most substantial of all benefits, a single parent with 2 children can expect £5kpa in CTC, 3 children £7.5k, 4 children £10k and so on. If they are disabled, double these amounts.

Add in LHA, CTB and so on, and its a significant amount of TAX FREE money. Remember an average £26k earner is only on £19k in reality for comparisons to benefit claimants.

I know girls from school who are on their 5th child already, we are mid 20's ages, god knows what they'll be on come 40.

Vote labour people.

mitchaa

Graham_Devon wrote: »

A lot are going to see their benefits increase by quite a sum too soon, when they are able to keep the full amount of CSA they may receive from an ex partner. The state will also pay the full amount of income support on top. At the moment, the lone parent only gets to keep £10 of the CSA amount, and the rest goes back into the pot.

This means reduced costs for the rest of us, and a fairer system between those recieving benefits (a lot get no help from ex partners)

Come April, I think, the lone parent will keep all money, meaning the rest of us have to put a lot more into the income support pot. The CSA payment will not be counted towards "income" for anything. So they could get an extra £300 a month and still be entitled to absolutely everything.

Another major reason these people will not want to return to work. Why bother! Keep all the money and have everything paid for!

Think about the CSA amounts of 4 children from 4 different dads, 4 lots of CB, 4 lots of CTC, and obvioulsy the LHA rates for a 4bed house. Add in income support, council tax exemption, school dinners, prescription charges, milk tokens etc etc

Certainly beats getting an education and busting a gut working for life doesn't it? Im beginning to wonder who the smarter 1's are, the baby making factory bunch or the educated tax paying bunch

I honestly think some politicians are oblivious to what is happening.

Graham_Devon

What I would like to know is why the benefit world is so different to the working world.

Everything counts towards income in the working world, and you have to prove otherwise.

In the benefits world, even a 3rd of your income doens't count as "income" even though it's a very large part of your income!

mitchaa

Just to rub more salt into the wounds....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8358339.stm

How about the long term employed getting a £40m windfall? Yeah right:rotfl:

Generali

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Graham_Devon

SingleSue wrote: »

What makes up that 3rd Graham...the most I can earn before it impacts is £20!

Tax credits by the sounds of it?

incher

mitchaa wrote: »

Certainly beats getting an education and busting a gut working for life doesn't it? Im beginning to wonder who the smarter 1's are, the baby making factory bunch or the educated tax paying bunch
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Nah, I'd rather get an education and 'bust a gut' because there is no dignity in being on benefits for life. Not if there's nothing physically or mentally wrong with you anyway!

SingleSue

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Tax credits by the sounds of it?

Sorry, I've deleted my post because I am in danger of being a bit of a drum banger when it comes to this subject.

Tax credits can also be claimed by those working, sometimes at a very large figure too.

Andy_L

ses6jwg wrote: »

It would also be interesting to see how many of them are uneducated lazy $hits who don't know their ar5e from their elbow.

It would also be nice to know:
How many households there were in 97/98 compared to now?
Does the 3x increase in those getting £20k or more over 10 years allow for inflation?
How many of the ecomomically inactive are students, stay at home parents or carears?

but I've sadly I've long ceased to expect statistical accuracy in the papers or politics

mech_2

Oh god another story full of spin. I wonder what the real figures are. I guess we'll never know as long as there's money in winding people up to sell papers.