EULAs and consumer rights

vyle

cooki2222 wrote: »

i assume you want to flash your xbox and play backups??

Nope. I was having an argument with a friend about that. I hate game piracy, as the stakes are too high for developers. One poor selling game can spell doom for them. I love guys like Double Fine, so want to support them.

It was actually a letter I read in a magazine that sparked the thought. The letter was asking why EULAs are included in the pre-load blurb because nobody ever reads them, and the reply was because they're a legal condition of use, so they're needed.

And i thought "hmm, so if you buy something before you've seen what youre agreeing to, then do you have any right to return if you dont agree?"

aliEnRIK

A very fine question. Im just posting here to see what the outcome is

Esqui

Leopard wrote: »

That's fairly typical of a Microsoft EULA.

If you want to read something really scary, wade through some Terms & Conditions and EULAs of "Office", "Word" or "Excel" and see what rights you assign to Microsoft by agreeing to those. :eek:

I did this once. From what I gather, on the 3-user licence version, the other users MUST be in your household. If you give a licence to your friend next door, that's against it.

However, I think it also said something to the effect of the user licences being transferable (e.g. if you get a new computer, uninstall it from your old one and you can use the licence on your new one). Which sounds fair.

Leopard

Esqui wrote: »

I did this once. From what I gather, on the 3-user licence version, the other users MUST be in your household. If you give a licence to your friend next door, that's against it.

However, I think it also said something to the effect of the user licences being transferable (e.g. if you get a new computer, uninstall it from your old one and you can use the licence on your new one). Which sounds fair.

http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/420

Marty_J

DrScotsman wrote: »

That's an argument in itself. I thought the latest was that they were legal.

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/12/2037223

That's June 2008, got anything newer?

Is having your PlayStation chipped illegal?
Yes (oh, we're such kill-joys, aren't we!?). The Courts have held that a Chip is a device which circumvents copy protection. Copyright law regards the supply of such devices as an infringement of copyright. New copyright offences arising from the implementation of the copyright directive in the Autumn of 2003 may also apply to PSX chippers.

ELSPA: Consumer information: FAQs: Piracy