Free solar power system. Is it a scam?

skelly01

Are there any companies out there willing to install free solar in central Scotland? There surely cannot be much difference between us here and North Yorshire, North West of England.

K4blades

skelly01 wrote: »

i am an electrical High Voltage Engineer and would be ashamed to leave wiring like that in picture 5. Sort yourselves out ASG!!!

Though I agree, ASG are ultimately responsible, I think this bit of the work is done by a chap from the grid.

saffysue

It may be of interest to people who have been turned down because of roof size, that I have been e-mailed by www.ashadegreener.co.uk to say they now have a smaller system that produces the same amount of electricity.

Anyone turned down because of roof size should re-apply.

Optimist

saffysue wrote: »

It may be of interest to people who have been turned down because of roof size, that I have been e-mailed by www.ashadegreener.co.uk to say they now have a smaller system that produces the same amount of electricity.

Anyone turned down because of roof size should re-apply.

The email quite specifically states do not reapply if you have had a survey already done and that they will be in touch

Information below


"As we anticipated, on Wednesday 20 October 2010, the Government announced its continued commitment to the FIT Scheme and we can therefore go ahead with our exciting new project that we’ve been working on for the past few months. We’ve developed a FREE Solar PV system for smaller roofs that will generate the same electricity as our standard 18 panel system that we are presently installing. We’ve installed more than 1000 homes now and this figure is increasing daily but we still have the capacity for many more thousands, and with this new system we can now install onto more compact roofs too.


We still need roofs that are south facing (give or take 30 degrees) but anyone who believes that they may have been turned down due to the size of their roof should now re-apply but do not re-apply if you have already had a physical survey carried out by one of our Surveyors - all physical surveys that were turned down due to size will be reviewed over the next month or so and you will be contacted if we can offer you this new system.


For those who haven’t had a physical survey, but who received an email saying their roof wasn’t suitable and if you think that the size, not the orientation, was the issue, please re-apply through our website


IF YOUR ROOF IS SUITABLE – YOU WILL BE OFFERED A FREE SOLAR PV SYSTEM

Our website now has video testimonials from homeowners who already have our system installed and hundreds of photographs of some of our current installations. Many of our homeowners have reported that they have already halved their electricity bills, and they are delighted with the savings that they are making.


If you are a Homeowner who already has our system installed, please spread the word by telling family and friends.


The 'A Shade Greener Team'"

K4blades

No doubt some will say that they are exploiting a loophole, though it appears they have been planning this for a while and were expecting the changes in the spending review.
How dare the government do something that allows a business to make a profit while that business helps people reduce their bills. tut tut.

Cardew

IMO it is a great pity that the Government didn't close this obvious loophole. However as the funding for these companies to plunder is taken directly from a levy collected from customers(most of whom cannot participate and benefit from the scheme) it would have no effect on Government finances.

The inevitable consequence of the scheme is that the big players will quickly swamp the market and the 'allocation' will quickly be reached and the subsidies(FIT) cut for future installations.

K4blades

And we will all be paying a levy so that new nuclear power stations, carbon capture, or other infrastructure can be built, and I can't opt out of that.
Though your observation, as I have pointed out before, is not actually correct. You can always buy your electricity from one of the smaller suppliers who don't contribute to the FIT scheme.

Still, I wouldn't want to mention the facts too much or you might acuse me of getting into a flutter.

Cardew

K4blades wrote: »

You can always buy your electricity from one of the smaller suppliers who don't contribute to the FIT scheme.

Really?

That adequately demonstrates your lack of knowledge! You quite clearly do not understand how the FIT scheme works.

Whilst a few small suppliers do not have to administer and pay out FITs, that doesn't mean their customers are exempt from paying into the 'kitty' administered by ofgem.

http://www.ofgem.gov.uk/Sustainability/Environment/fits/Documents1/Ofgem-FIT%20Guidance%20Document%20for%20Licensed%20Electricity%20Suppliers%20(FINAL%20FOR%20PUBLICATION).pdf

The cost of FITs will be shared by all Licensed Electricity Suppliers, who will be required to contribute to the costs of FITs through participation in the Levelisation Process.[/QUOTE

So all electricity customers pay into the 'kitty' from which the FITs are paid.

K4blades

Hilarious

, go on, admit it, you've not actually read it.


"So all electricity customers pay into the 'kitty' from which the

FITs

are paid"

No they don't. If a smaller supplier chooses not to volunteer to pay into the fund that

FITs

are paid from, then they won't.
However, all suppliers are required to make a small payment into the

levelisation

fund, which is based on market share, and they could end up with being paid FROM the fund should they pay into the scheme more than their market share requires.
What this document also shows, is yet more evidence that the rules allow for generators, (ASG), to have installations on more than 1 site. So yet more evidence that there is/was no loophole, just you wanting to mislead people.

Cardew

K4blades wrote: »

Hilarias, go on, admit it, you've not actually read it.


"So all electricity customers pay into the 'kitty' from which the FITs are paid"

No they don't. If a smaller supplier chooses not to volunteer to pay into the fund that FITs are paid from, then they won't.
However, all suppliers are required to make a small payment into the levelisation fund, which is based on market share, and they could end up with being paid FROM the fund should they pay into the scheme more than their market share requires.
What this document also shows, is yet more evidence that the rules allow for generators, (ASG), to have installations on more than 1 site. So yet more evidence that there is/was no loophole, just you wanting to mislead people.

You really have no idea what you are talking about; just bluster and obfuscation and an attempt to cover up the nonsense you wrote earlier by changing the subject.

I will leave others to read and make up their own mind who is correct.