Advice re holidays and TOIL days

DVardysShadow

I think you have to go back to your boss and say "I don't want to lose my holiday, now you tell me what is acceptable to you - or do you intend me to lose holiday?". And if the answer is unacceptable, you just have to go to HR.

Zazen999

Ok - you have two issues here that need dealing with differently.

If the guv tells you to come to a meeting, in his time, then you go. Thems the rules.

If your boss is not allowing you to take your leave; you need to request a meeting and have 17 baby post it notes and a calendar. Have the 17 post-its sitting on the days that you want between now and the end of your leave year. Unless he is willing to pay you for those days, you need to walk out of that meeting with a written agreement that you are taking the days that the post it notes are on when you leave the room. That's 3 weeks and 2 days; and there are only 6 odd weeks to go - so somewhere along the line you are going to be off for a fair while. Or they pay you. Simples.

DVardysShadow

Zazen999 wrote: »

... If your boss is not allowing you to take your leave; you need to request a meeting and have 17 baby post it notes and a calendar. Have the 17 post-its sitting on the days that you want between now and the end of your leave year. Unless he is willing to pay you for those days, you need to walk out of that meeting with a written agreement that you are taking the days that the post it notes are on when you leave the room. That's 3 weeks and 2 days; and there are only 6 odd weeks to go - so somewhere along the line you are going to be off for a fair while. Or they pay you.

Agree. I think that the problem here is that the boss is such a case that the OP is unlikely to get very far without backing the boss into a corner and if he does manage to back him into a corner, then the boss is likely to make life hell. Given that choice and the possibility of losing holiday, I would make sure I had my holiday. He is not going to like it, he is going to make the OP pay for it, but I do think yours is the best way of backing him into the corner he needs to be backed into.

asset2004

Thanks for all your replies.

Zazen999 wrote: »

If the guv tells you to come to a meeting, in his time, then you go. Thems the rules.
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I agree but by receiving an email saying 'You are invited..' with the accept, decline or tentaive options I thought I had an choice. It could have been better worded.

I'm going to wait until after the meeting tomorrow before I bring up the holidays.

I had a brief chat today with the company's ex occupational health officer (who was made redundant from the company) today. She knows the office and is aware there is bullying going on (Three years ago a colleague was signed off with stress for four months). She is going to bring in some leaflets with me, she also said I must contact my doctor, HR and she would look into a counselling service.

Thank you

SandC

I would also book up next year's hols in advance - say you want a fortnight in June, a week somewhere else, leaving just a few days to take whenever.

I've always thought when it comes to things like this - if I dropped down dead tomorrow would they manage? Yes, they would. So they will also manage to allow me to take the holiday leave I am entitled to.

onlyforboards_2

Pete111 wrote: »

Three weeks notice for a week off is just about OK IMO



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Mine too (although each company has different policies), but not when the deadline for spending leave is a month away, there is little chance of rescheduling leave before it expires.

Reasonable requests continuously turned down give grounds for grievance. Losing annual leave because you didn't request it to take until two months before it expires doesn't give you much back up if you want to make a formal complaint about it.

Difficult management can make it difficult to put in leave requests especially if you know they will be turned down but an employee must ensure their requests appear reasonable if they want to fight!