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Mums - where would you look for pt job?

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  • Why do you specifically want mums? If it is for ethical reasons them the best way is to offer creche facilities or childcare vouchers, flexible hours and working from home on child sick days.
  • surreysaver
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    I think if you target an advert at females, and it is a job that is traditionally female orientated as well, you could well end up in a tribunal. It is acceptable to target job adverts at under-represented groups, as long as you accept applications from anyone that applies, but if you target at groups that are already over-represented to the detriment of under-represented groups, then you are acting unlawfully. There are plenty of women today with careers, and men have a harder time being a main-carer than women do, because of stereotype views held by, in the main, women.
    I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?
  • There are plenty of women today with careers, and men have a harder time being a main-carer than women do, because of stereotype views held by, in the main, women.

    Are you sure about that? Most men who are the main child carers I know (very few who have female partners earning enough to do so) do not complain about women giving them grief.
    Much of it is caused by how employers (no specific gender) look at women employees resulting in men going to work without main childcare responsibilities and women being responsible for the kids and going to work if needed.
  • OP - do let me know how to apply for this job, so that I can then sue you for both age and sex discrimination. Jeez - some people are just not fit to employ others.
  • surreysaver
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    Are you sure about that? Most men who are the main child carers I know (very few who have female partners earning enough to do so) do not complain about women giving them grief.
    Much of it is caused by how employers (no specific gender) look at women employees resulting in men going to work without main childcare responsibilities and women being responsible for the kids and going to work if needed.

    In my experience, it is women who are more disrciminatory than men. Look at the health service - it is staffed mainly by women, and look how it hates men! Men have always been happy totreat everybody equally - it is women who hold the stereotype views, thereby holding women back in the workplace, as well as holding men back in domestic duties.
    I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?
  • In my experience, it is women who are more disrciminatory than men. Look at the health service - it is staffed mainly by women, and look how it hates men! Men have always been happy totreat everybody equally - it is women who hold the stereotype views, thereby holding women back in the workplace, as well as holding men back in domestic duties.

    Uhh...I don't have any figures in front of me, but I'm guessing the NHS as a whole is roughly split 50/50 (or perhaps even heavier weighting towards male staff!). The majority of nurses might be female, but when you take doctors, cleaners, catering staff, porters, ambulance staff, etc. into the equation, there are literally tens of thousands of men (as well as many male nurses!).

    Just looking at doctors - the backbone of the NHS - it's impossible to typify them into pretty much any class. They are male, female, young, old, black, white, Asian, British, foreign, working class, upper-class, etc...

    And how they "hate" men is a mystery. Men have always traditionally taken up much less time and money from the NHS, thanks to the archaeic opinion that men "don't go to the doctors". A number of media and television campaigns recently have tried to attract men towards the health services, lest they be ignoring something that might be causing them serious health problems, now or in the future.
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  • From what you have posted above you are discriminating against age and sex ....please be very careful what you put in your adverts or ask people at interview- you can land yourself with a very hefty fine.

    Older people, males and those without children are perfectly capable of doing a p/t job, sticking to it and doing a very good job.

    I would suggest putting together a small advert being very specific on the hours you are looking for and the type of job (no mention of age/ gender or family). You could advertise in:
    - Local paper (try getting lineage because it is much cheaper than a full ad)
    - Local community centers/ local shop notice board
    - Local colleges/ universities (people study part time and often look for P/T work between studies)
    - JC+ online (Make sure the job is very specific on hours and role and you should get better applicants- it's free so worth a try again)
    - Speak to your local JC and say you have had difficulties filling it for you- they could then give you local advise and will also sometimes pay for an ad to go in the paper.
    - online job boards like Reed, workingmums, jobs4mothers, totaljobs etc

    Hope this helps.
  • Sorry to say, as others have posted, this advert is actually illegal.
    You should only state what the work is/hours are etc.
    You can advertise in schools etc where parents will be, but you can't advertise exclusively in these places, as this is discrimination.
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  • sams247
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    Well a few points. First, I am a very small fish in a bigger company, and it's my job to do the advertising, not make the big decisions. I am very aware of discrimination law, and I would not place an advert based purely asking for females, certain age etc, I guess I should have phrased my original question more carefully and realised that people would leap onto pointing things like discrimination out rather than simply see I was seeking advice in a generic nature. But to the people who have answered with good advice I appreciate it.

    And why a 'mum'. Well, we actually already employ house fathers, and a semi retired person. We were looking for a person who would blend in with the 'needs' of those people, as in be open to swapping days to help each other out in school holidays. We operate a flexible approach to the hours worked to fit in wiht everyone's life, whether it is for child care, senior parent care of simply to fit in with an extreme sport. It works well if a new person comes with the same flexible attitude and appreciates the team ethic of support, so a 'mum' is ideal in that it is assumed that this is exactly the sort of support they would be looking for. But a 'mum' can be a dad, a nan, a single elderly semi retired butcher........ it was just simply a title I used to encapsulate the working attitude sought. And no offense or discrimintaion
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          1. Hi there,

            I'm a mum and looking for work in the following places;-

            Jobcentre plus
            Local free paper
            Local paper
            shop windows


            Hope that helps
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