Can school force my child to stay in during lunchtime

verysillyguy06

pipkin71 wrote: »

So, did your son's head of year physically detain your son? You say he grabbed him, which suggests the man put his hands on your son, and in an aggressive manner, if he also said those words to him.

What are you going to do about that aspect of what happened. You also mention there were witnesses. Will you be making a complaint about what the teacher is alleged to have done?

As far as I recall, teachers cannot physically detain anyone - even if they were trying to leave the building. Instead they have to let them go. As a mother, if your son was physically detained in such an aggressive manner, you need to report this.

However, I can't say that I 100% see the situation happening as you describe and I'm sure others would view it as I have. Would the teacher risk his position to keep your son in school, given that they cannot physically touch pupils in most cases?

I don't know, but as a mother myself, if a teacher had grabbed my child in an aggressive manner, the issue of them having to stay in at lunchtime would come secondary to dealing with what the teacher had done.

Hi you !


I have read her posts and it does say she has written a letter of complaint....I can find the quote if you want....


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pipkin71

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

Hi you !


I have read her posts and it does say she has written a letter of complaint....I can find the quote if you want....


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Thank you

I'm reading and posting as I go along**. I'm sure I will come across the letter of complaint. Personally, I would have taken it further than a letter of complaint, but we all do things differently

**I know some people like to read the whole thread first, and depending on length I do, but then I lose what I wanted to comment on if it's too long, but I will get there in the end

verysillyguy06

minxtress wrote: »

Just to keep you all updated, I have now had two meetings with the head mistress and she has allowed my son to stay for packed lunches which is something.
With regards to the other teachers threat of impaling my son on the railings should he try and leave I have written to the Governors and Local Education Authority and am awaiting a reply.

Common sense prevailed. Like you , we could not afford such prices and our children would end up eating food that they would not really want , especially as my son is vegetarian and he had researched the menu in his school. Luckily, our school is fairly open and year 9 can go and leave the premises with parental permission.

verysillyguy06

vaio wrote: »

I’d be surprised if it damaged his career, I would hope the Governors and Local Education Authority would have a good laugh and then file it in the humourless idiots drawer


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Not sure really......I agree that in this age group teachers use a lot of humour, and by god do they need it, but for me it would depend on the circumstances to decide how 'funny' it was.....


It would depend greatly on how and when the teacher said it...bodylanguage and all....

Grey area for me....

pipkin71

minxtress wrote: »

I have had a meeting with the Head Mistress this afternoon, she was arrogant to the point I nearly lost my temper completely I am ashamed to say.

That really wont help the situation minxtress.

You gave quite a few comments about what was said at the meeting, but what about the situation where your son was grabbed by a teacher and threatened? What did the head say about that?

I haven't got to a point yet, where you say they are investigating your complaint, so you may well address it further in the thread. Bear with me

pipkin71

KatP wrote: »

I'm surprised how many people think the OP should not challenge a rule she disagrees with. I do not think that it is an acceptable example to set to a teenager that we should blindly accept anything someone in authority tells us.

Agree with this Kat.

Rules that are unfair should be challenged, but it's how one goes about challenging them that matters. Lying isn't the answer. Losing your temper isnt the answer [not you personally, but you in general].

I believe the OP is challenging the rule, by taking it up with the LEA if she gets no further with the school and hopefully, packed lunches will be allowed. Not so sure she will get the 'staying on premises' rule changed to how it was though.

vaio

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

Not sure really......I agree that in this age group teachers use a lot of humour, and by god do they need it, but for me it would depend on the circumstances to decide how 'funny' it was.....


It would depend greatly on how and when the teacher said it...bodylanguage and all....

Grey area for me....

If he'd said "I'll punch your lights out" or similar then I'd agree and would want to about body language and context etc. and it would be a grey area.

If he said “I’ll impale you on that fence” or “I’ll stick a nuclear bomb up your bottom” then it’s obviously meant in jest and not at all grey

pipkin71

minxtress wrote: »

Just to keep you all updated, I have now had two meetings with the head mistress and she has allowed my son to stay for packed lunches which is something.
With regards to the other teachers threat of impaling my son on the railings should he try and leave I have written to the Governors and Local Education Authority and am awaiting a reply.

Thank you for that.

Has the head been made aware of what happened with the teacher, as the LEA and governors will often refer you back to the head to deal with any incident first. If so, what was the head's position on what happened? HAs she taken a statement off your son and the other witnesses?

Sorry for all the questions.

pipkin71

barbara_anne wrote: »

Well, it will likely damage that teachers career, so that's nice of her. Plus it sounds like he was joking to me.

If he grabbed him and threatened him, how does that sound like he was joking?

If someone in the street grabbed your child and threatened to impale them on the fence, would you say it was ok as they were probably joking?

I can't see a teacher grabbing a child knowing the risk it brings to their job, but I would take further action if my children were physically grabbed and threatened.

verysillyguy06

vaio wrote: »

If he'd said "I'll punch your lights out" or similar then I'd agree and would want to about body language and context etc. and it would be a grey area.

If he said “I’ll impale you on that fence” or “I’ll stick a nuclear bomb up your bottom” then it’s obviously meant in jest and not at all grey

Ok I would go with that.....but the fence one, maybe its just personal differences. I remember too many headlines where children died having fallen on fences. As i dont know the fence or the teacher, I would have to assume that any ' good' teacher would have used it in humour...but I also dont know the op and cant just assume that she and her son are 'humourless' and have been wanting to stirr....


I still can see both sides and stick to grey....