mileage allowance

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Anihilator wrote: »

A minimal cost that a lot of people have on their premiums anyway.

Wear and tear is related to miles driven yes but if your doing a couple of hundred miles a year its not likely to make a difference.

Are you trying to suggest that most people don't just pocket the 40p as additional income

The OP has already said it would cost them £1500 per year.

Hardly minimal mileage.

As for premiums you will find that most people have Social, Domestic, Pleasure & Commuting to a place of work.

Are you trying to suggest that most people don't just pocket the 40p as additional income

No. I am suggesting you have NO idea what you are talking about.


I wont bother talking about depreciation. Let alone wear & tear.

The Inland Revenue calculate 40p per mile for a reason & its not so you are better off & pay less tax.

You dont even know what car they drive, the OPs age, their driving history & what premium they pay.

I suggest you go read the AA website.


By the way, what is the price of diesel today? :rotfl:

robredz

Anihilator wrote: »

A minimal cost that a lot of people have on their premiums anyway.

Wear and tear is related to miles driven yes but if your doing a couple of hundred miles a year its not likely to make a difference.

Are you trying to suggest that most people don't just pocket the 40p as additional income

Cover for business use varies according to the use, especially if the mileage takes the user above say 10k miles pa, or some equipment in connection with business use is carried. Normal use only includes commuting to work if specified on the policy, this is not automatic, and business use is over and above this.
So it may not be a minimal cost at all.

DVardysShadow

Anihilator wrote: »

... Are you trying to suggest that most people don't just pocket the 40p as additional income

Perhaps this will make you feel at home: Big Rock Candy Mountain

robredz

@ 1984ReturnsForReal

Diesel at our local garage is 108.9 per litre, on a trip down the A41 to Market Drayton on Friday I saw 111 and 115 pence per litre.
so 40p per mile isn't going to go anywhere near as far as when HMRC set that figure, let alone 12 pence. 40 pence a mile is nothing on a parcel run with a mileage of 200 + per day in a Transit at 28 mpg. Don't know how long 40 drops would take on public transport, in Mid Wales though LoL.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

robredz wrote: »

@ 1984ReturnsForReal

Diesel at our local garage is 108.9 per litre, on a trip down the A41 to Market Drayton on Friday I saw 111 and 115 pence per litre.
so 40p per mile isn't going to go anywhere near as far as when HMRC set that figure, let alone 12 pence. 40 pence a mile is nothing on a parcel run with a mileage of 200 + per day in a Transit at 28 mpg. Don't know how long 40 drops would take on public transport, in Mid Wales though LoL.

Around me its 108-113 per litre.

My fuel cost alone would be circa 17p* per mile, let alone anything else.

robredz

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Around me its 108-113 per litre.

My fuel cost alone would be circa 20p per mile, let alone anything else.

A greeny asked me why I could not use public transport or cycle to work, he was most offended when I told him could not cycle 30 miles each way at 5 am, and then 200 miles with a trailer on the bike and a ton of parcels on a 200 mile delivery run. I told him one of those battery assisted rickshaws would be no good either Lol:rotfl:

ohreally

Op, management are eroding your conditions of service, i assume you are keeping your trade union up to speed with this imposition?

If management become intransigent, perhaps take one of these into your next meeting...http://www.play.com/Gadgets/Gadgets/4-/9226225/Remote-Control-Flying-F-k/Product.html

ab7167

Wow - heated debate!

Answers as follows:

I don't really want to say who I work for, but my job involves probably around 3 or 4 site visits a week (planned) and an unspecified number of emergencies, where we are called by a client and have to attend as soon as reasonably practicable. Some of these situations will have health and safety implications if we delay attending for any reason.

The type of sites we visit can vary from large inner city ones to some that are very rural - hence only 2 buses a week. I suppose I could use a bike for some of them, but not really in my current condition! Plus I don't own a bike...

The 40p a mile I believe is the inland revenue rate, which we have always been entitled to since I started there 4 years ago. I don't think management are being deliberatly decietful by saying we can claim the difference from HMRC - it feels more like one person has said it (wrong end of stick) and now it is being repeated as gospel by the senior management, without them having done any research.

The £1500 is not my loss, but that calculated by a couple of my colleagues as the difference between their mileage claims now and what they would be under the new system.

I think my business use coverage costs me about £60 per year - I don't expect to make a profit out of it, but I certainly don't expect to make a loss!

I do agree with sustainable travel, but when it can take me 3 times as long to get somewhere, and then I get moaned at for booking too many hours to the job, it's a bit hard to swallow, to be honest. They seem to want it everywhich way but costing them money.

My insurance is due for renewal next month, so I will continue to drive for business (at a loss if necesssary) until then, but will be declining to reinusure my car for the next year for business use. I think there will be a number of us who do this, so hopefully I will not be taking a stand on my own. I am not a member of a union, wouldn't know which one to be honest, but I am a member of a professional institution - I will have to enquire if they can provide assistance!

Thanks for all the replies.

robredz

Check with the professional association, possibly even ACAS, and ask HMRC for advice due to it costing far more than the tax relief on offer. The unscheduled rural calls would be very difficult with public transport, at unsocial hours unless it was a taxi (obviously non cost effective). Get together will your colleagues and work out the cost implications, then present your findings to the employer with a united front.

Zazen999

robredz wrote: »

Check with the professional association, possibly even ACAS, and ask HMRC for advice due to it costing far more than the tax relief on offer. The unscheduled rural calls would be very difficult with public transport, at unsocial hours unless it was a taxi (obviously non cost effective). Get together will your colleagues and work out the cost implications, then present your findings to the employer with a united front.

You mean, as suggested in the first response?