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Lost in the post, now buyer wants a refund

fablad75
fablad75 Posts: 326 Forumite
Sent something unrecorded to France - unfortunate and stupid, but I didn't have time to go to the post office - and now, over a month later, the buyer's contacted me to say that he never got it, and wants his money back (£30).

It's probably just stuck under a massive mountain of unsorted post, but I can't honestly blame the buyer for wanting a refund now. So I've lost the seller's fees AND the item.

SO angry with myself - and Royal Mail!

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  • pinkshoes
    pinkshoes Posts: 20,609 Forumite
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    At least the buyer waited a whole month before declaring it lost!

    Did you not even get proof of postage?

    Oh well, live and learn...
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  • Dave101t
    Dave101t Posts: 4,157 Forumite
    yeah not much to suggest here apart from always use recorded delivery. i never offer anything less.
    incidently, i wouldnt post abroad its a can of worms
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  • soolin
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    Dave101t wrote: »
    yeah not much to suggest here apart from always use recorded delivery. i never offer anything less.
    incidently, i wouldnt post abroad its a can of worms

    Half my sales are overseas and overseas bidders are useful to push the prices up. In some categories the overseas bidders account for nearer 75% of bids. I also never use any form of tracking but i do limit my sales to items under £39 so a COP covers me for loss.

    I think the OP is rather more cross at themselves than they are at buyer.
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  • cyberbob
    cyberbob Posts: 9,480 Forumite
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    soolin wrote: »
    Half my sales are overseas and overseas bidders are useful to push the prices up. In some categories the overseas bidders account for nearer 75% of bids. I also never use any form of tracking but i do limit my sales to items under £39 so a COP covers me for loss.

    I think the OP is rather more cross at themselves than they are at buyer.

    Exactly the same here I have very few problems as well. Recorded or international signed for not really worth the extra cost.
  • Astec
    Astec Posts: 515 Forumite
    Apologise and refund the buyer, mention the postal strikes. Also raise a mutual cancellation to get your fees back. Be polite and explain the situation to the buyer and they should accept.
  • cyberbob
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    Astec wrote: »
    Also raise a mutual cancellation to get your fees back. Be polite and explain the situation to the buyer and they should accept.

    Thats a bit risky. If myself as a buyer had an item not arrive and I was refunded fair enough. If I then get a request for a mutual cancellation I think something funny going on here (did they actually send the item?). I would then be seriously considering my feedback options.

    As a seller if an item is lost I would never ask for a mutual. I just take the loss
  • mrcol1000
    mrcol1000 Posts: 4,797 Forumite
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    cyberbob wrote: »
    Thats a bit risky. If myself as a buyer had an item not arrive and I was refunded fair enough. If I then get a request for a mutual cancellation I think something funny going on here (did they actually send the item?). I would then be seriously considering my feedback options.

    As a seller if an item is lost I would never ask for a mutual. I just take the loss


    Everytime I have had an item lost I have asked for a mutual with no problems. Most buyers will understand its not your fault as long as you don't drag your feet and ignore their messages I see no reason why they wouldn't accept the mutal.
  • cyberbob
    cyberbob Posts: 9,480 Forumite
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    edited 28 October 2009 at 11:29AM
    mrcol1000 wrote: »
    I see no reason why they wouldn't accept the mutal.

    As above. Also as long as you claim via RM (with COP) for your loss you do not lose your FVF. All asking for a mutual in that situation does is make you look like your trying to make a profit which is very suspicious
  • fablad75
    fablad75 Posts: 326 Forumite
    I have no proof of delivery at all - I basically popped enough postage on it to ship to France, then dropped it into a letterbox, so I have no way to claim anything.

    I'll refund him the money, and try to get my FVF from eBay - the buyer seems pretty relaxed about the whole thing, so I'm sure he'll agree to a mutual.

    Hopefully if the cards do arrive eventually he'll let me know so we can sort something out.

    Thanks for all the feedback, guys.
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