"South West Home Truths"

lostinrates

Really2 wrote: »

so whats the solution graham It can't be magic that the prices are so high!

You missed this bit.

a lot of homeowners are ''incomers'' or retired, a lot of people have inherited their homes. It is true that prices here went up A LOT in a decade. ten years ago £250k would have bought a decent house with some land.

Really2

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION^82056&sortByPriceDescending=false&minBedrooms=2&displayPropertyType=houses&radius=10.0&oldDisplayPropertyType=houses&index=10

3 beds starting at £75k within 10 miles of Tauton Deane.

So looks like the average hose is not a average house then. Looks like there is a high percentage of expensive figures blowing the averages you state GD.

chopperharris

If theres not enough employment then why biuld more homes?

It makes no sense for councils to make more housing , i refuse to use the term social housing , its meant as a negative stimuli to increase home ownership.Classles britain my ar5e.

If theres not enough homes then treble tax second homes.

If these are the kind of owners that are making the homes unaffordable to everyone whom wants to stay and work there , assuming that there is jobs of course , then bloody tax them to the nth degree.Why should those that dont actually live there full time have any say in what can or cant be built?Reeks a bit like israelis voting about palistine building work.

A bit like the village that voted on no new homes around gatwick or heathrow , got their wish , then years down the line the airport got planning to increase , pretty soon more village.Justice , no not really.

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION^82056&sortByPriceDescending=false&minBedrooms=2&displayPropertyType=houses&radius=10.0&oldDisplayPropertyType=houses&index=10

3 beds starting at £75k within 10 miles of Tauton Deane.

So looks like the average hose is not a average house then. Looks like there is a high percentage of expensive figures blowing the averages you state GD.

Talk about taking this a little far. Have you looked at the property you started on?

If not:







Yes. You are correct. You have found properties cheaper within comuting distance. But that's not what the article is talking about. It is talking about those specific areas.

I'm not here to argue. MP's are off to London to discuss this problem. Not me. I was just raising the story. I don't even live there.

the_ash_and_the_oak

purch wrote: »

Well in West Somerset, you could rent a 3 bed type place that would be marketed at £ 180/220K for £600/650 pm

Larger properties struggle to be rented, and you can often find really nice places, even with a decent chunk of land for £1,000/£1,200 pm.

If this is true then it suggests imo that amount of housing isn't really such a problem.

Really not feeling this argument about building yet more housing if there are places to rent available at reasonable prices (is 600pcm reasonable for local wages? - it must be at least ok or people would live on streets?)

chucky

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Just like we discourage the use of gas guzzlers through higher taxation etc for the reason that resources are not finite.

that is a good point but a good economic point does not mean that it is a good political point.

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Housing resources also are not finite, and as lots of the more optimistic keep saying, to back up rising house prices, the population is getting bigger.

we're nowhere remotely near that point, so not an argument.

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It doesn't make THAT much sense for someone to own a holiday home while another person is priced out because of that person having a holiday home.

people are allowed holidays!? what's the problem

Graham_Devon wrote: »

If someone can come up with an argument as to why this is punishing to some, I'm all ears.

it happens and there isn't much else to it. why do people pay two times as much as the list price for a stainless steel Rolex Daytona, when you can buy a white gold Rolex Daytona for list price? the answer is that they just do and there isn't anything that we can do...

mbga9pgf

lostinrates wrote: »

I have a feeling those maps showing ares of permitted development will be re drawn on much the same lines. and the delay is halting things. I understand for example a lare dvelopment near Southhampton/Eastliegh would have gone ahead but for cash flow, and Conservative plans would be to review it...but then I imagine allow the same building there or somewhere else.

Difference will be when self-builds apply for PP on existing empty land. Labour practically eliminated any chance to selfbuild in decent areas with over bureaucracy in the planning system. Once a couple of thousand civil servant town planners have been sacked and people are allowed to build decent sized family homes again, just wait and see what happens.

lostinrates

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Difference will be when self-builds apply for PP on existing empty land. Labour practically eliminated any chance to selfbuild in decent areas with over bureaucracy in the planning system. Once a couple of thousand civil servant town planners have been sacked and people are allowed to build decent sized family homes again, just wait and see what happens.

Well...wish I could wait: that is ou dream and there are plenty of good places to build. Planning is both complicated and disspiriting.

dgl1001

chopperharris wrote: »

If theres not enough employment then why biuld more homes? employers will locate to where there are people to employ - not the other way round.

It makes no sense for councils to make more housing really!!! surely if there is a shortage of housing, then more needs to be built?, i refuse to use the term social housing , its meant as a negative stimuli to increase home ownership.No, i disagree Classles britain my ar5e.

If theres not enough homes then treble tax second homes.

If these are the kind of owners that are making the homes unaffordable to everyone whom wants to stay and work there , assuming that there is jobs of course , then bloody tax them to the nth degree.Why should those that dont actually live there full time have any say in what can or cant be built? Members of the public do not have a say what is built, regardless of where they live. The location and level of development is set at a regional level. Reeks a bit like israelis voting about palistine building work.

A bit like the village that voted on no new homes around gatwick or heathrow , got their wish , then years down the line the airport got planning to increase , pretty soon more village.Justice , no not really and look at the benefit this has given to the wider general public; im sure you have flown before.

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purch

3 beds starting at £75k within 10 miles of Tauton Deane

Thats Bridgwater in Sedgemoor District :eek:

That house is on the A38, backing onto a huge Industrial Estate, with 40 ton Artics trundling past, about 3 feet from the front door !!!