Unhappy with Clarks

mad_bad_spender

When my kids were younger i would also use the talc test, especially on shoes that are quite firm leather when it can be hard to check the toe room by pressing on the shoes.

Also if the insoles were removable i would take them out and you could generally see the imprint of the foot on them or i would have them stand on the insoles to get a good judgement of the size.

i had a few issues with clarks selling shoes that didnt fit properly but the one good thing to say is there were never any arguments with them taking them back and refunding or exchanging them for the correct size,

one day i bought my dd a pair of doodles and she put them on straight away, we managed to walk for about ten minutes before she was crying with big blisters on her heels, took them back straight away and they exchanged them for the correct size and also gave 50% of the price back for her suffering

kazzah60

liam8282 wrote: »

kazzah60 I will not quote the text as that is being pedantic, like yourself.

you can't quote the text where i advise people to remove the innersole- i SIMPLY DID NOT WRITE IT AND ANYONE WHO CAN READ CAN SEE THAT
HOWEVER I AM HAPPY TO PASTE IT HERE - THEN YOU CAN POINT OUT WHERE I SAY REMOVE THE INNERSOLE


The TALC test - sprinkle some talcum powder inside your childs shoe
shake the shoe to coat the bottom of the innersole
GENTLY put the foot in the shoe and get the child to stand up
then gently remove the shoe taking care not to shake it too much

WHERE DOES IT SAY REMOVE THE INNERSOLE???????????

kazzah60

If you think about the talc test even further, the imprint will only be from the sole of the foot, that is not the overall length of the foot.

This is incorrect - the imprint will be of the sole of the foot and THE TOES too
unless of course the child has no toes ( and I am NOT being facetious - some children have missing toes) and how much longer IS the foot other than the length of the sole and the toes ???


Also, if your talc test showed that the sole of your childs foot was right up to the end of the shoe, then no doubt your childs heel and toes will have been tight in the shoe, which could lead to the following problems (kindly provided by the clarks website, again)
AT NO POINT HAVE I MENTIONED THE SOLE OF THE FOOT BEING AT THE END OF THE SHOE IF YOU ACTUALLY READ WHAT I HAVE SAID ALL ALONG
IT IS TO SEE WHERE THE TOES OF THE FOOT COME TO
I NEVER MENTIONED THE SOLE OF THE FOOT BEING AT THE END OF THE SHOE

I f you wish to go on and on about a simple test to this extent - feel free, you are simply proving with each comment you make that you cannot actually read or understand what I have written
I am sure you are a wonderful caring father with all the skills of the universe at your fingertips, so I will bow out of this discussion, knowing I am correct and you are simply being silly.

What I DON'T understand in all of this, is that you seem to be such a wonderful
exponent of Clarks shoes and their fitting criteria - however you chose to send your child to school in kickers - a brand of shoe that is not marketed in width fittings, nor has any kind of training scheme for staff to fit them - in fact they are now admitting on their own website that they have had a problem with fitting - not a thing I have EVER come across with Clarks shoes



Classic Kicker jeans boot. It has a white crepe sole, distinctive stitching and side stitched welting. All this means the construction is very stuff and is perfect for the rough and tumble of every day kid wear.

IMPORTANT

This is the latest version of Kick chi/Tri and the small fitting problem has been corrected. Therefore you can select your own size after converting it to continental sizings.

Becles

liam8282 wrote: »

Becles you already felt and looked to see if the shoe fit your child before doing the talc test, so it gets back to my point that the talc test is pointless!!

Also, if your talc test showed that the sole of your childs foot was right up to the end of the shoe, then no doubt your childs heel and toes will have been tight in the shoe, which could lead to the following problems (kindly provided by the clarks website, again)

http://www.clarks.co.uk/YourFeet/KidsFoothealth/FoothealthforKids

Thanks for the comments, but I'd rather go with the advice about the talc test which was given to me by a trained Clarks shoe fitter.

shellsuit

Becles wrote: »

Thanks for the comments, but I'd rather go with the advice about the talc test which was given to me by a trained Clarks shoe fitter.

*snigger*



liam, wind it in please, kazza was just trying to help, so why you keep belittling everything she says, I don't know?!

I'd never heard of the talc test, but I'll definitely be trying it once my little one is up and walking

liam8282

Excuse me, but I have not belittled anything that anybody else has wrote.

I simply stated that the talc test seems pointless, it is actually kazzah60 who is trying to belittle everything I have written.

In fact as kazzah60 points out over and over again, if she read my posts, instead of just quoting and having a rant at me because I dared to question that the vast and varied knowledge of a children's shoe fitter of 20 years, I did say that the talc test sounded good in theory.

kazzah60 - I am not "such a wonderful exponent of Clarks shoes and their fitting criteria", I simply went to their website and posted links to the professional advice given, which totally agrees with what I have said.

If you would like to continue to use the completely flawed talc test, go ahead, it doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Also, if you do not remove the insole, how are you supposed to see the imprint of the toes inside the shoe, that would be quite difficult in most shoes.

The thing is you are giving out advice that is wrong, and people may actually follow your advice.

The point about the sole of the foot:

The imprint of the sole of the foot will obviously include the toes, I never said it didn't! What I did say is, the imprint of the sole of the foot does not compensate for how the toes curve upwards and outwards from the imprint left by the sole, the same for the heel.

You can clearly demonstrate this by placing your finger on flat surface in front of you. The print left is not to the tip of the finger, the same applies for your foot. That could be a good 1cm - 2cm difference (heel and toes), you are not allowing for when you are using the talc test.

The point about me choosing kickers:

As I use a similar method as demonstrated by the Clarks website when trying shoes on for my son, it does not matter what the actual size or brand of shoe is that I purchase, I follow the points and come to a conclusion if the shoe fits. I did mention before about differing brands having differing sizes etc, but you clearly do not read what I have written, or choose not to quote parts of what I have written that you have nothing to comeback at me with.

I think the following sentence says it all for me:

"there is a VERY easy and foolproof method of seeing if your child has outgrown their shoes recommended by Clarks many years ago"

MANY YEARS AGO, because it is a long out dated and flawed method.

"I am sure you are a wonderful caring father with all the skills of the universe at your fingertips, so I will bow out of this discussion, knowing I am correct and you are simply being silly."

So that is not belittling and insulting?

You are not correct and I am not being silly. To say you are is just petty, argumentative, childish and insulting.

I have said your method is good in theory, but is flawed in many ways.

I will continue to use my own methods, which I am confident with, especially as they agree 100% with the professional advice given.