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Maybe downhill. Cars like that should be restricted as they cant stop anywhere near as quick as true sports cars. Unless they have uprated discs/pads/brake lines and callipers.
Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Well, when I used to be part of a Vauxhall tuning club there were countless Novas running 150BHP 2.0 16v engines and they used the brakes from the Vectra. These could stop better than most modern saloons on account of their light weight. There's no overcoming mass when it comes to braking.
I had Vectra 3.2 V6 brakes on my Astra GTE and they were astounding, what with being designed for a 1400KG car and then being used on an 880Kg car. I binned the servo and went to a bias box set up, that was better still, made you realise how binary most modern car brakes are. No use for anything other than hard braking.