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Sackable offence?

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  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,373 Forumite
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    BTW, there is a trade union for everyone, it doesn't have to be recognised at work for you to be entitled to join one. May be worth considering.
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  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    For a nursery to treat it's staff under guidelines for registered teachers wouldn't be overly unfair, as they have the same unsupervised teaching/contact with kids. A code of conduct isn't law, that's why the worst that can happen is dismissal, not prosecution. As to the dismissal, the deciding vote would be at a tribunal, if it ever got that far.
  • biggaz26
    biggaz26 Posts: 308 Forumite
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    The problem you may have is that Nurserys and Childminders are governed by OFSTED. If OFSTED have a code of conduct on these things (and I dont know if they do) then that will apply to all concerned with the 'education' of children.

    I mention this because if the teachers code of conduct is set by ofsted then it could apply to Nursery staff to unless it specifically excludes nursery staff.

    However, you employers can only concern themselves with you activities outside of work if they have an effect on your ability to do your job or the reputation of the company you work for.

    So for example if you go out and get lashed and smash a window in your Nursery uniform and get arrested or you company finds out then they can bring you in on a disaplinerary (sorry about the spelling).

    What they cant do is influence your beliefs be them politcal or religous or say who you can see outside of the workplace. Im not sure they can stop you comminicating via social networking sites. However there have been cases where people have complained about their jobs on facebook and forgotten that they are 'friends' with their boss and been told not to bother coming in the next day.

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  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,611 Forumite
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    biggaz26 wrote: »

    So for example if you go out and get lashed and smash a window in your Nursery uniform and get arrested or you company finds out then they can bring you in on a disaplinerary (sorry about the spelling).

    What they cant do is influence your beliefs be them politcal or religous or say who you can see outside of the workplace. Im not sure they can stop you comminicating via social networking sites. However there have been cases where people have complained about their jobs on facebook and forgotten that they are 'friends' with their boss and been told not to bother coming in the next day.

    Dont take what I say as gospel but I think i am right.

    G

    +1

    As you say, if a group of employees meet after work and can be identified as employees (either by uniforms or because they are all known to work for the nursery) then their conduct will reflect on the nursery.

    I suspect that there is something other significant event(s) underlying that has triggered this, rather than just the employer has decided that if two employees have a coffer together they can be sacked.
  • skibadee
    skibadee Posts: 1,304 Forumite
    Have spoken to Ofsted they have no code of conduct on this regarding nursery staff.
    I also suspect there is an underlying reason for this to of been said......but as of yet do not know what that could be.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    skibadee wrote: »
    Have spoken to Ofsted they have no code of conduct on this regarding nursery staff.
    I also suspect there is an underlying reason for this to of been said......but as of yet do not know what that could be.

    I'd think that the recent nursery child abuse case might well be the reason, as was suggested earlier.
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    Look at the gtc website, the code of conduct can be interpreted as stated by your bosses, and while only applicable to registered teachers who wish to maintain their gtc accreditation, could be used as best practice.
    It can also be interpreted as being no different to previous codes as well.
    (For an example, there has been a teacher removed for appearing in a !!!!!! film, so would that be a reasonable role model for children, and an unjustified intrusion into the teachers private life, or is it a fair response to someone that you wouldn't reasonably expect to be able to continue as a teacher, and maintain respect in the classroom, and provide a good role model?)

    look at
    http://www.gtce.org.uk/documents/publicationpdfs/code_of_conduct_1009.pdf
  • molerat
    molerat Posts: 34,690 Forumite
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    mikey72 wrote: »
    What a load of politically correct !!!!!!!!. It has a lot of words but actually says nothing that could not be reasonably interpreted as anything other than do your job properly. Just another of those "keeping someone earning a lot of money in a job" projects. I cannot see anything in it that could possibly give the op's employer any justification for their idea.
  • vaporate
    vaporate Posts: 1,955 Forumite
    I fail to see what business any employer has of what employees do in their own private time.

    Shove it is my true opinion.
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  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    edited 20 October 2009 at 4:23PM
    mikey72 wrote: »
    You could, but you would be wrong. Google teachers code of conduct.
    I came up with this. On a casual glance, it does not seem to raise issues or justify the reaction of the OP's employer. Is this the document?
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