Civil service job and bankrupt

tigerfeet2006

I know of 2 police officers who are BR.

philnicandamy

LeeSouthEast wrote: »

Depends which 'bit' of the civil service. Police officers for instance, cannot be bankrupt. I would presume most other parts without direct money handling roles or 'corruptibility' issues would be ok?

Hmm recent change then?....police officers can now go BR..I know 2 that are coming up on discharge soon...:D

philnicandamy

CG77 wrote: »

Ahem...! moi?!!!

CG. x

Oh and PS...pot, kettle, black?!

who...me?.......

LeeSouthEast

If you are a constable already then it's not too much of an issue. Bankruptcy is a lawful discharge option. They won't hire you if you're bankrupt though.

debtinfo

Police officers can lose their job for "for not repaying a debt that is lawfully due". In practice they must report the bankruptcy to their superiors who will decide on any action to be taken, usually this is decided on how culpable they are for their own bankruptcy

suseh97

philnicandamy wrote: »

You dont need to declare bankruptcy on a crb check....its NOT a criminal offence

I know but on the civil service crb check it does ask the question 'are you an undischarged bankcrupt' with a yes or no box to tick. They also want to know about minor motoring offences that led to an on the spot fine.

Thought it was better to be upfront than risk being caught out on a lie. Never been an issue. I would advise the OP to be honest even though it is not an offence

alastairq

I know but on the civil service crb check it does ask the question 'are you an undischarged bankcrupt' with a yes or no box to tick

erm....not on a CRB check..ie if you are in contact with under-18's.
No civil offences are mentioned, just criminal....and even these time-out after so many years.

The reason for Civil service jobs asking the BR question is for SECURITY...

certain CS jobs, if conducted by BR persons,, may leave that person open to financial pressurising by 'orribol foreign powers, etc...all very coldwar,you'll get a visit from George Smiley if you succombe, etc.

all a bit dubious really, given teh huge numbers of bankrupt civil servants around....
[seen their salaries, have you?...well below the govt's breadline figures too]

Bobbledoo

Hi everyone and thanks for your replies.

Just to let you know my current undischarged bankruptcy status did actually cause me a problem, however, I suspect I was unlucky with this particular HR manager. I was told that all cases were considered on their merits and I had to provide them with details of the circumstances of bankruptcy, which I duly did. They then asked for details of the amount of debt, how much I had already paid back including amounts and dates, and details of any IPA I had entered into. When I asked why they needed this I was simply told that I had to give as much info as possible and they repeated that each case was based on individual merits. I was not happy with this explanation nor was I prepared to divulge such personal information as I felt it had no relevance to the decision, debt is proportionate, for some people 20K is too much and others could have millions of pounds worth of debt before bankruptcy.
Anyway, I felt they were being nosey and very judgemental and I was so annoyed I have withdrawn my acceptance of the offer. After all, bankruptcy, is no reflection or your ability or professional conduct.
By the way, this was a performance management job, which did not involve handling or monitoring budgets or money, nor was it with the police. Guess I was just unlucky, their loss, I'm sure they'll be other employers out there who are less prejudice. But very frustrating, in 6 months I would be discharged and they would be none the wiser!
Thanks again.
PS - the question was on their 'Legal Questionaire' which also asked about any criminal convictions - and indeed I was made to feel like a criminal!

alastairq

well done, Bobblrdoo...the truth is, far too many managers within the Civil Service actually don't know what they're doing.

If I were in your shoes, I'd have reported the situation to a higher authority.

No way are they allowed to be privy to such information....and in my view, the response you got tells me the person concerned actually knows absolutely nothing about insolvency, or the fact that Civil issues are not a barr to becoming a Civil Servant.

Their ignorance of the subject needs to be hilighted to their superiors.

I suspect they actually did NOT know how to handle you or your revelations...so decided to actually try to 'put you off'.

as an easy option...so you are well away from such ignorance.


and I'm a civil servant too........

Bobbledoo

and in my view, the response you got tells me the person concerned actually knows absolutely nothing about insolvency, or the fact that Civil issues are not a barr to becoming a Civil Servant.

Just exactly what I thought, which made me even less inclined to get into any further sensitive discussion with him. I thought about making a complaint but can't face it. Think I'll just put the experience behind me - not meant to be and all that. As you said probably better of keeping well away!
Cheers