Rescue dog! Big let down!

suki1964

mrcol1000 wrote: »

consultant31 wrote: »

What is it with people on the pet's board? I'd think long and hard before asking any questions on here when irregular posters are treated with such unpleasantness.

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I think the actual problem is that some people have some different ideas on this board and when the majority disagree with them they don't have the ability to appericate that their views and ways of doing things are in a minority and assume that people are ganging up on them. Its an open forum with a wide range of posters. If you don't like the responses you get and get that upset by it then you need to join a more specialised forum that is more for people with similar views to yourself.

Actually the problem ( as I see it) is more that some people on this board seem to think their way is the only way and do not allow others to have their say without being shouted down.

If people were adult enough to understand their way wasnt the only way and other ways are just as valid, there may be more posters to this board - as there once was

jimmyjimsgin

I assure you that no help was offered apart from "stick with the dog for 2 months", I am not a rude person, I did not speak rudely to the individual. The trustee was extremely defensive in her phone call and offered no help or solution. She made personal rude comments rather than any help or understanding. I spoke to the RSPCA and they have advised me to take it further as being a rescue home and charity does not allow people to behave inappropriately or assess animals inadequately.
Thank you for your comments though

mrcol1000 wrote: »

I agree there are good, bad and really awful rescues. However you only have one side of this. You do not know how the OP spoke to the rescue for them to react the way they did. Few people who deal with people are naturally rude but there are some. THere are a lot of people who deal with people who are rude and then rude back. Also you don't know what they did to try and help. I think its very easy to hear one side of a story. Its a shame the rescue centre can not provide their side as it may create a clearer picture.

jimmyjimsgin

all my previous labs and retrievers bought from reputable breeders insisted on returning them if things didnt work out.

I expected them to have the dog back as it says on the form they will have the dog back at any given time and that we would not pass it on to anybody else.

suki1964 wrote: »

REPUTABLE BREEDERS INSIST ON THEIR DOGS BEING RETURNED

DO NOT confuse breeders with puppy farmers and what we call back yard breeders ( those that let their pets have litters out of ignorance)

alleycat`

suki1964 wrote: »

If people were adult enough to understand their way wasnt the only way and other ways are just as valid, there may be more posters to this board - as there once was

The problem i have with a lot of forums (which usually results in me typing, calming down and deleting a lot of posts) is that it quite hard to sometimes pick up the tone of a plain text posting on a board like this.

Bit off topic that bit

As for the OP.

I owe you an apology as it was my idea to cross post the message into the pets forum (which you then got roasted for).

In the end i hope you eventually find the right pup for your home (be that old or young) and that it hasn't put you of rescues.

foreign_correspondent

jimmyjimsgin wrote: »

all my previous labs and retrievers bought from reputable breeders insisted on returning them if things didnt work out.

I expected them to have the dog back as it says on the form they will have the dog back at any given time and that we would not pass it on to anybody else.

you would hope so - however, a breeder may well take a dog back, but they dont seem to give you back your purchase fee, (judging from past threads on here where people have been trying to get money back from a breeder after having problems with a dog) which is usually a lot more than a rescue charges.

jimmyjimsgin

thank you for your suggestion, I thought it was a good idea!

alleycat` wrote: »

The problem i have with a lot of forums (which usually results in me typing, calming down and deleting a lot of posts) is that it quite hard to sometimes pick up the tone of a plain text posting on a board like this.

Bit off topic that bit

As for the OP.

I owe you an apology as it was my idea to cross post the message into the pets forum (which you then got roasted for).

In the end i hope you eventually find the right pup for your home (be that old or young) and that it hasn't put you of rescues.

jimmyjimsgin

My point is that the rescue dog was a year old and had been assessed and recommended to my family. They assured me that he was of "excellent" temperament, 4 days and then an unprovoked vicious attack causing injury is slightly different to a breeder refunding money for a 10 week old pup that the new owners got fed up with for example! I trusted that assessment, and the way the charity have handled the issue ahs made it lots worse that is all.

foreign_correspondent wrote: »

you would hope so - however, a breeder may well take a dog back, but they dont seem to give you back your purchase fee, (judging from past threads on here where people have been trying to get money back from a breeder after having problems with a dog) which is usually a lot more than a rescue charges.

suki1964

foreign_correspondent wrote: »

you would hope so - however, a breeder may well take a dog back, but they dont seem to give you back your purchase fee, (judging from past threads on here where people have been trying to get money back from a breeder after having problems with a dog) which is usually a lot more than a rescue charges.

Once again are we talking about reputable breeders here or people just churning out litters?

As I dont ever remember seeing a post in all the years Ive been here saying reputable breeders dont refund fees when pups are returned

Kim-DogsBlog

jimmyjimsgin wrote: »

My point is that the rescue dog was a year old and had been assessed and recommended to my family. They assured me that he was of "excellent" temperament, 4 days and then an unprovoked vicious attack causing injury is slightly different to a breeder refunding money for a 10 week old pup that the new owners got fed up with for example! I trusted that assessment, and the way the charity have handled the issue ahs made it lots worse that is all.

I do understand partly where you're coming from - one thing I would say and I think I'm repeating another poster here - dog body language etc may not be picked up on by us humans but there's very rarely an unprovoked/out of the blue attack. They do sometimes occur I'm sure, however, in my experience and from the experience I've picked up from behavioural experts, it can just be that a human didn't see what was going on prior to their disagreement.

I also don't think a rescue would deliberately mislead or rehome a dog to a home they didn't feel was suitable and maybe that's slightly blinkered but I'm sticking to it I say this on the basis of what do they have to gain? Rescues are inundated just now and have been much more over the last 18 months than in my experience during 2007 and so rehoming and having dogs 'bounce back' I wouldn't expect appeals, nor would having a dog, rehoming and then putting that dog in a potential dangerous situation for the dog or anyone else involved.

foreign_correspondent

animals and people can present with new, unpredicted behaviours all the time...

... a rescue can only risk assess a dog based on its past history - the dog may well never have acted like this before in its life, so could not have been expected to be likely to do this now. It lived with your dog for four whole days with no problems, so I do not know how you, the rescue or anyone else could have predicted it would do this...

..it may have been a different case if there was lots of scrapping when they first met, but if they seemed calm together it strikes me that this was unexpected and unlikely to happen.