Out of interest question

DUTR

shell_542 wrote: »

They wouldn't have to pay for another test if the parents already have the copies of the results though :rolleyes:

Remember the question was just posed hypothetically, no one is or likely to be in that scenario, but going back to your reply, the date of the test would not correspond with the date of the new claim.
Remember some DNA tests were not done because they had to be done, it is the NRP's right to demand a test if he does not meet the presumed parent status :T

DX2

DUTR wrote: »

Well I called the CSA just to check the lady went off to confer, the agent said a new case is a new case and all the rules still apply, so they can only presume parentage if the parents were married to each other or the father's name is on the BC, the NRP would have to pay for the test blah blah etc etc.

They presume parentage as long as neither party is disputing it There clearly is no need for a further DNA test. The NRP surely isn't stupid enough to go down the DNA testing route again.

shell_542

DUTR wrote: »

Remember the question was just posed hypothetically, no one is or likely to be in that scenario, but going back to your reply, the date of the test would not correspond with the date of the new claim.
Remember some DNA tests were not done because they had to be done, it is the NRP's right to demand a test if he does not meet the presumed parent status :T

An NRP can dispute parentage all he wants, but as soon as the PWC sends in a a copy of the DNA tests confirming he is the father, his dispute goes out of the window. It doesn't matter what date is on the test. If the test was done through the CSA in the first place, it is done with Cellmark, whose results stand up in court. They are a reputable company, not some dodgy home kit.

I can't see how the CSA would agree to another DNA test, costing them time and money and delaying a straight forwards case even further when they could start processing the case straight away with the results from the PWC.

DX2

shell_542 wrote: »

An NRP can dispute parentage all he wants, but as soon as the PWC sends in a a copy of the DNA tests confirming he is the father, his dispute goes out of the window. It doesn't matter what date is on the test. If the test was done through the CSA in the first place, it is done with Cellmark, whose results stand up in court. They are a reputable company, not some dodgy home kit.

I can't see how the CSA would agree to another DNA test, costing them time and money and delaying a straight forwards case even further when they could start processing the case straight away with the results from the PWC.

The test would cost the NRP

DUTR

DX2 wrote: »

The test would cost the NRP

The test costs the NRP anyway , no one said anything about avoiding paying , just the right to determine or dispute assumed parentage.

DUTR

shell_542 wrote: »

An NRP can dispute parentage all he wants, but as soon as the PWC sends in a a copy of the DNA tests confirming he is the father, his dispute goes out of the window. It doesn't matter what date is on the test. If the test was done through the CSA in the first place, it is done with Cellmark, whose results stand up in court. They are a reputable company, not some dodgy home kit.

I can't see how the CSA would agree to another DNA test, costing them time and money and delaying a straight forwards case even further when they could start processing the case straight away with the results from the PWC.

As explained , the situations are not disputing paternity ever!, there are rules for assumed paternity, but as the nice lady at the CSA said (after she checked) the process would have to be started all over again for a new case

shell_542

DX2 wrote: »

The test would cost the NRP

In the end ... the CSA pay it first, then they recoup the cost from the NRP.

But it costs the CSA in wages for their staff working on this case, costs involved with contacting Cellmark and it costs them time.

DUTR

shell_542 wrote: »

In the end ... the CSA pay it first, then they recoup the cost from the NRP.

But it costs the CSA in wages for their staff working on this case, costs involved with contacting Cellmark and it costs them time.

Nope, I paid my test upfront, if the CSA do it then they add their commision on top.

DUTR

DX2 wrote: »

They presume parentage as long as neither party is disputing it There clearly is no need for a further DNA test. The NRP surely isn't stupid enough to go down the DNA testing route again.

Not sure why you assume a NRP requesting a test is stupid, there was a recent long thread here where had the test been requested long ago then there would have been a lot of saved heartache.
And it would not be the 1st time this has occured either.

shell_542

DUTR wrote: »

As explained , the situations are not disputing paternity ever!, there are rules for assumed paternity, but as the nice lady at the CSA said (after she checked) the process would have to be started all over again for a new case

I'm confused.

Sorry DUTR, can you explain what you mean? :rotfl:

The chain of events would be ...

PWC contacts CSA.

CSA contact NRP and presumes parentage.

NRP tells CSA he is disputing parentage.

CSA tell PWC.

PWC sends copy of DNA test done however long ago confirming NRPs parentage.

CSA start claim.

The NRP has a right to dispute parentage again but he wont get far because his parentage has already been proved in the past.