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carolt

michaels wrote: »

OK

Looking at this:
http://www.hertsdirect.org/infobase/docs/pdfstore/secoutturn0910 P32

It suggests that Rule 4 was the lowest ranked rule under which anyone got in to Beaumont last year and that the max distance (by approved route) for this rule was 1571m (about a mile) and Google maps suggests the property is 2.1 miles from the school?

I'm not sure if the parish of Colney Heath also covers properties a lot closer to St Albans?

I don't know - no expert on the area, I'm afraid, just have a friend who lives there, isn't planning to move, and is looking at the school.

If you measured the distances then I'm sure you're right - this house may be too far (though interestingly, the year before, people could live 3716m away and still get in - not sure whether that means they changed the rules in that time, last year was just particularly popular, or esp large number of siblings, or what...? I suppose you could ring the school up and ask them why there was such a great disparity year-on-year?)

I was more just trying to show that there was another, cheaper area where you could look to move to and still be in the catchment for 1 of your 2 preferred schools.

Likewise, Sandringham - your other preferred school - takes loads of kids from Sandridge, which is also cheaper than central St Albans - according to the same link I posted earlier.

Just a thought.

carolt

lostinrates wrote: »

Because the whole schoolthing is never an issue for us I find the discussion of school ctchment areas fascinating and new.

And I am finding it stressful and tedious...

We visit our 9th school this week! Then time to sit down with Ofsted reports plus all the bumph etc and decide where we want to move to....

Aaargh.

lynzpower

Cleaver can I ask if your not having kids why the 3 beds? ( I jest, we are in a 3 bed too)

Heald green costs 5.00 to manchester airport in a taxi.

I dont know about North manchester, I mean, Ive driven through it obv but never really been. My dad used to say terrible thngs to us when we were growing up like "if you dont pass your exams youll end up living in gorton" ( Wassnt shameless based on gorton) IM sure there are moneysavers that live there dont wish to offend

Grandprents live in Timperley/Brooklands, again I think its lovely there but seems a bit more expensive, but there is the tram that-a-way. Most around the 170 mark are ex locals- saying that I really dont think its a bad area, and if you are into schools, Altricham grammar is one of the best in the region ( I think, still)

StevieJ

If I had a choice of the whole of the Manchester area I think I would prefer the Saddleworth villages, lovely place and good schools. Also the choice of Dithering Dad I think

carolt

michaels wrote: »

OK

Looking at this:
http://www.hertsdirect.org/infobase/docs/pdfstore/secoutturn0910 P32

Thanks, interesting website.

dopester

StevieJ wrote: »

If I had a choice of the whole of the Manchester area I think I would prefer the Saddleworth villages, lovely place and good schools. Also the choice of Dithering Dad I think

There are a few 'posh' area dotted about the North Manchester areas. Saddleworth I'd call one of them. Pretty area overall if you like that kind of thing. Or the Bamford little part of Rochdale.

Accents though. Prestwich is just just down from Middleton. I can picture the future with Cleaver junior. "Hey our Cleaver can you make us a poached egg." (Poached with the p seeming to draw out for almost all of the word as it's spoken until hitting the d.)

Going just slightly further North and I recall the kids saying "You comin up yon?" "Over yon" and loads of other local stuff. Bringing a kid up there aren't they more likely to adopt some regional accent?

It isn't a total free run in South Manchester either, but for so many areas I don't notice any strong accent whatsoever. Accent free even. You can go down to London and without having a trace of accent which would give away where you're from (imo and ime).

I suppose if you grew up in Burnage there's is a fair chance you'd get a strong accent with a similar ring as the Galllaghers. That Burnagy/heavier Stockport tone.

Or like how Schmeichel went from Denmark to join Manchester United years ago, and whatever company he kept at the club at the start saw him get an instant Manc'y/Salfordy accent, although he did actually live in South Manchester. That isn't the first instance I've noticed with foreign Manchester United players getting the Manchester accent, although Ronaldo mostly escaped it.

More recently Gorton has suffered from serious deprivation, which has resulted in high crime levels and burglary. The popular T.V series Shameless (UK TV series), which is shown on Channel 4 is mainly filmed in Gorton.

Most of the 19th century Victorian houses around Gorton were demolished during the 1960s, and many people were moved to new overspill housing estates in other parts of the city. However, some people remained in Gorton and were placed in new council houses and flats.

Gorton has the highest percentage of uninsured drivers in Britain, with 30% of drivers living there having no cover. This is reflected in the high levels of car theft and break-ins across Gorton, which have caused drivers living in the area (particularly young males) to be subjected to exceptionally high insurance premiums. (2007)

Have you ever been to Gorton?

I've been to Grimsby, Cleethorpes and Skegness and all of them were a heaven compared to Gorton.

lostinrates

dopester wrote: »

Accents though. Prestwich is just just down from Middleton. I can picture the future with Cleaver junior. "Hey our Cleaver can you make us a poached egg." (Poached with the p seeming to draw out for almost all of the word as it's spoken until hitting the d.)

What an amazing description...I'm trying to hear it now...and almost can but not quite.

I love regional accents, possibly because I don't really have one. My childhood accents are, IMO, what sealed the deal about me coming to UK to school, and my Italian accent is different to DH's (having only lived in Milan) much to our Italian friends' great amusement and slight ridicule (to DH's suffering, not mine:D). I don't think the ''risk'' of an accent would put me off an area.

carolt

dopester wrote: »

There are a few 'posh' area dotted about the North Manchester areas. Saddleworth I'd call one of them. Pretty area overall if you like that kind of thing. Or the Bamford little part of Rochdale.

Accents though. Prestwich is just just down from Middleton. I can picture the future with Cleaver junior. "Hey our Cleaver can you make us a poached egg." (Poached with the p seeming to draw out for almost all of the word as it's spoken until hitting the d.)

Going just slightly further North and I recall the kids saying "You comin up yon?" "Over yon" and loads of other local stuff. Bringing a kid up there aren't they more likely to adopt some regional accent?

It isn't a total free run in South Manchester either, but for so many areas I don't notice any strong accent whatsoever. Accent free even. You can go down to London and without having a trace of accent which would give away where you're from (imo and ime).

I suppose if you grew up in Burnage there's is a fair chance you'd get a strong accent with a similar ring as the Galllaghers. That Burnagy/heavier Stockport tone.

Or like how Schmeichel went from Denmark to join Manchester United years ago, and whatever company he kept at the club at the start saw him get an instant Manc'y/Salfordy accent, although he did actually live in South Manchester. That isn't the first instance I've noticed with foreign Manchester United players getting the Manchester accent, although Ronaldo mostly escaped it.

What's wrong with an accent? I partly went for my OH because of his lovely northern accent (now very faint, sadly..).

dopester

lostinrates wrote: »

What an amazing description...I'm trying to hear it now...and almost can but not quite.

I love regional accents, possibly because I don't really have one. My childhood accents are, IMO, what sealed the deal about me coming to UK to school, and my Italian accent is different to DH's (having only lived in Milan) much to our Italian friends' great amusement and slight ridicule (to DH's suffering, not mine:D). I don't think the ''risk'' of an accent would put me off an area.

The word seems to take near 3 seconds to complete. A slowly pronounced word up there. PppoaacheD egg. A deep low tone to it as well. As you begin and hold the word as though you're putting you lips together and out as though you're making to give a kiss.

I like them too - perhaps for the same reason as you Lir for not having one. Nothing Carolt. It can be a hindrance for some people I've found though. At work there are enough people who sometimes cruelly mock another person for their accent, but I'm not one of them. However I'd still think carefully before settling somewhere it was likely a child would develop a particularly strong regional accent. (I'm not clearly understanding all of that story Lir. You are fluent in Italian? Cool.)

lostinrates

dopester wrote: »

. You are fluent in Italian? Cool.)

No, very far from it, but DH is fluent, but as a Tuscan, where I never was, so he speaks in a particularly identifyable way, which he softens to more.....Italian RP ish influenced by Tuscan, where as becuse when we lived in Italy we were in Milan I speak with a more...clipped (?) Austrian and French influenced accent ( trying to sound as unenglish as possible ). In NW of Italy its quite esy to hear where words beging and end, and each letter is sounded how its explained in Italian tetbooks. I also find Venice easy..it sounds dreamy and the consonants ar only just hit, mostly, as if just by accident and in danger of waking one from that strange Venetian state of mystery. DH pronouces hard ''c''s as a raspy ''H'' and the words seem to blend into each other..its hard, as a foreigner, to hear defined words when first hearing him.