The best policy the Tories could introduce is a proper married couples allowance

The_White_Horse

there is a reason why those who don't get married don't get married. it is a commitment issue. if you love your partner, wear a ring, bought a house etc why not marry her. believe me, she wants to get married. she probably won't admit it though for fear of losing you.

The_White_Horse

marriage is the key to this country's future. bringing up children in safe stable environments.

i would also offer ZERO help to any unmarried teen mother - in fact, any unmarried mother. They can have as many babies as they like, with my blessing, as long as I don't have to contribute to it.

Degenerate

The_White_Horse wrote: »

you could get married to your partner in a registry office for about 50 quid. The point is, one of you or both of you, don't want to commit. that is the long and short of it.

Not to encourage Horsey's trolling, but I had to thank this. If you want the legal benefits of a marriage, get married, and share the legal liabilities of one too. I've even heard more than one long-term cohabiting person bemoaning the lack of an equivalent of a civil partnership for heterosexual people. There is - it's called a marriage! If you or partner is marriage-phobic, that's up to you, but don't complain if you're missing out on certain benefits than a marriage confers.

boyse7en

The_White_Horse wrote: »

there is a reason why those who don't get married don't get married. it is a commitment issue. if you love your partner, wear a ring, bought a house etc why not marry her. believe me, she wants to get married. she probably won't admit it though for fear of losing you.

Is that Troll I smell??

Idiophreak

The_White_Horse wrote: »

believe me, she wants to get married. she probably won't admit it though for fear of losing you.

Of course she wants to get married. And I want to marry her....and?

I told you before, why I won't marry her - we can't afford it.

We both studied at uni for 4 years, got some debt and have just bought a house. We've not been stupid, or reckless, we're just young people with the money young people have.

We bought a house and once we can afford to, we'll get married. Should we have done it the other way round, though? Under your regime, would we have the advantages of the scheme whilst being married, but living apart? Would that make us more of a "functional unit" in your view?

boyse7en

Degenerate wrote: »

. If you want the legal benefits of a marriage, get married, and share the legal liabilities of one too. I've even heard more than one long-term cohabiting person bemoaning the lack of an equivalent of a civil partnership for heterosexual people. There is - it's called a marriage! If you or partner is marriage-phobic, that's up to you, but don't complain if you're missing out on certain benefits than a marriage confers.

What are the legal benefits of a marriage? Our house is tenants in common - so we each own half. I'm named as father to my children so would have legal rights the same as an ex-husband if we did split up. My will is made out to ensure that my partner and children inherit whatever I have at the time (and vice versa)

Its an honest question. I don't know what the advantages of marriage are. Cheaper car insurance? War widows pension?

Really2

Idiophreak wrote: »

I told you before, why I won't marry her - we can't afford it.

Sorry can't agree with that. You don't have to have a lot of money to get married.

Perhaps you mean you can not afford the wedding, reception etc. you both want yet.;)

Lunary

Dude, you seriously have tolerance issues!

You also seem to be having trouble understand view points that are different to your own. I am unmarried and am being supported by my partner not the state, therefore what business is it of yours whether I am married or not? I'm pretty sure that I have illustrated clearly that I don't have commitment issues and would argue that deciding to have a child with someone shows far more commitment than marrying them. Again I am also confused as to why my situation does not provide my son with a safe and stable upbringing?

Degenerate. I'm pretty sure I haven't moaned about being excluded from any current legislation that is biased towards married couples. I am debating the need for future legislation that is biased towards those that are married on the grounds that I don't think it is necesary. All the points that have been brought up by White Horse seem based on his own narrow viewpoint

The_White_Horse

all this "marriage is unecessary" is rubbish. all those in long term relationships but not married have serious underlying issues.

JayScottGreenspan

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

It's good because he likes it.

Presumably next he will be proposing policies such as banning beards because he thinks they're ugly. :rolleyes: At least with the internet these loons can foam online without actually trying to take power.

Er, I know it's not very PC to say it, but marriage is actually a good thing and should be encouraged.