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I'm Investing in Property

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  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    My stuff is 1.99% cash ISAs, 97.99% cash in bog standard accounts .... and .02% in bags of fresh flour and baked beans so I can eat using only a small camp fire.
  • Harry_Powell
    Harry_Powell Posts: 2,089 Forumite
    mewbie wrote: »
    tbh Cleaver I'm probably over invested in internet smugness. Some financial gains as well and I can march onto the Savings and Investment boards and say "look at my wad".

    I don't know why, your predictions are always wrong and you have very little credibility. Even your 'humour' is strained these days, you just come off as increasingly bitter. :confused:

    My advice would to be to get off here, get out into the real world. Have a beer with your mates and stop reading all the doom and gloom. You seem to become more miserable by the day.

    That said, you seem to get more down as the economic news and house prices get better, perhaps you just enjoy other people's misery?
    "I can hear you whisperin', children, so I know you're down there. I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children. I'm coming to find you now." - Harry Powell, Night of the Hunter, 1955.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I don't know why, your predictions are always wrong and you have very little credibility. Even your 'humour' is strained these days, you just come off as increasingly bitter. :confused:

    My advice would to be to get off here, get out into the real world. Have a beer with your mates and stop reading all the doom and gloom. You seem to become more miserable by the day.

    That said, you seem to get more down as the economic news and house prices get better, perhaps you just enjoy other people's misery?

    I had to laugh at the complete irony.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Been down this route in the past, there are plenty of downsides.

    Costs - even if the fund charges are very modest, what about all the feeders out of gross returns, deducted before any net return is applied, to include;

    Property managing agents
    Legal teams
    Accountants
    Maintenance
    Surveyors

    All these people in addition have many many costs such as staff and need to turn a profit

    These are real people that might have Henrietta at private school - you don't think they work for nowt do you?

    Typically funds tend to use high end expensive managing agents - and who's keeping an eye on thier costs? I can well imagine them billing the fund for say £50k worth of maintenance, yet only £30k ever gets to the plumbers, the rest finds its way to the managing agents coffers one way or tuther.


    Then there are those pesky liquidity problems as standard life fund holders recently found when they wanted to take funds out.


    Nah, funds are for lazy investors. I want a brick in return for a £1
  • Harry_Powell
    Harry_Powell Posts: 2,089 Forumite
    I had to laugh at the complete irony.

    Oh dear Graham. Just because you say something is ironical, doesn't mean it actually is. :rolleyes:

    Graham's debating skills come from the school of "because I said so", "no, you are" and "my Dad is bigger than your Dad and he's a Policeman anyway".
    "I can hear you whisperin', children, so I know you're down there. I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children. I'm coming to find you now." - Harry Powell, Night of the Hunter, 1955.
  • Jonbvn
    Jonbvn Posts: 5,562 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    My advice would to be to get off here, get out into the real world. Have a beer with your mates and stop reading all the doom and gloom. You seem to become more miserable by the day.

    You do realise that you are talking about mewbie?;);)

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    In case you hadn't already worked it out - the entire global financial system is predicated on the assumption that you're an idiot:cool:
  • mewbie_2
    mewbie_2 Posts: 6,058 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Jonbvn wrote: »
    You do realise that you are talking about mewbie?;);)
    Well you may have a point. But given that this was my most bullish post ever I'm a little disappointed in the response.
  • bendix
    bendix Posts: 5,499 Forumite
    I've been back in property funds for the last couple of months. Only a small percentage, mind, but I felt it was right to get a bit of property into the portfolio and it goes with the general philosophy of investing when you feel things have pretty much hit rockbottom for a particularly asset class.
  • ses6jwg
    ses6jwg Posts: 5,381 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I am looking at getting into a commercial property fund, which are the best?

    Looking at New Star, SWIP, and L&G.

    Any ideas folks?
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    I'm looking at this little number

    http://www-p.aspc.co.uk/cgi-bin/public/LiveProperty/274569?ID=NJCKKANL#picture

    2 bed citty centre for £105k. Can easily get £800 per month in the rental market.
    I'd like to modernise it a bit, but just roughly speaking if I was to get it and upgrade for a total of £120k, that would still mean an 8% rental yield.

    Think I'm going to put in a noted interest and see how it goes
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
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