Worse off!

Magnolia

I am sorry in advance for saying this as I am not a raging feminist or anything like and I could be totally wrong but this stinks of discrimination. Fair pay for all!!

*throws bra on back of fire*!!

Gothicfairy

Are you a member of a union ? If not join one now. It does not cost that much really and they can and will fight your cause for you.
companies are not allowed to pay a female less then a male for the same role and job title, They might be trying to find other ways around that as they can not just come out and say " you are a women so worth less" (which might be what they are thinking)
You need to find out from the horses mouth (senior manager etc) why your wages are going to be less then advertised.

[Deleted User]

You didnt mention how much the actual salary increase is.

To cause a £200 decrease per month in tax credits you would need receive a salary increase of £500 per month so in actual fact you would be £300 better off with the wage rise as opposed to staying on the lower salary.

[Deleted User]

A trade union may not take up the fight as the issue began before joining. If you were not in the union prior to the issue you should have been.

Oldernotwiser

Magnolia wrote: »

I am sorry in advance for saying this as I am not a raging feminist or anything like and I could be totally wrong but this stinks of discrimination. Fair pay for all!!

*throws bra on back of fire*!!

Never apologise for being a feminist - I don't!

alunharford

You've got a good negotiating position. Say that you can't accept for purely financial reasons. Say that if you were offered <whatever was advertised> and <some extra demand> then you'd love to accept the position.

That way, whoever decided not to pay you properly can save face later by paying you the advertised rate but not the extra demand.

It doesn't always work but at this point it doesn't seem like you have much to lose :-(

deedee71

subsoniccoyote wrote: »

You didnt mention how much the actual salary increase is.

To cause a £200 decrease per month in tax credits you would need receive a salary increase of £500 per month so in actual fact you would be £300 better off with the wage rise as opposed to staying on the lower salary.

Sadly, this isn't how tax credits work!!! A £2.5k rise means a £4.5k loss in benefits approx (in my circumstances)

deedee71

Thank you for all the supportive comments. The senior manager's words when I raised it were "she (HR woman) shouldn't have opened her mouth" Then he went on to say it would be unfair on the man I share an office with if I was paid that salary, as he has been there longer......although he does a completely different job!

Where I work doesn't recognise a union, so I doubt that would be helpful, and as has been pointed out they would only get involved if I was in the union when this happened.

Nothing else for it but to accept, do the job well, and ask for a payrise next year. :rolleyes:

asandwhen

deedee71 wrote: »

Sadly, this isn't how tax credits work!!! A £2.5k rise means a £4.5k loss in benefits approx (in my circumstances)

I cant see how this would be the case - Have you worked it out right? What are the figures?

ceridwen

Have you got anything in writing at all from them as regards the pay mentioned at the interview?

I know, in various different circumstances before, where whoever-it-is HASN'T given me something in writing stating what we have agreed - that I then give them a letter (copy kept) stating what we have agreed and see if they try and disagree with that. It tends to work in my experience....

eg "Thank you for offering me x position at y salary and I look forward to commencing on z date".

I would still do this personally - despite anything that has been said verbally since that interview.

If they didn't respond appropriately to my first letter - then I would send them another stating "I regret I am unable to take up the promotion offered to me - as I would be worse off than I am at present. I thank you for offering this to me - but I have decided to remain in my present position until such time as a position is available at x salary or higher. I apologise for any inconvenience caused - but am sure you will understand that I am unable to do anything that would cause my household income to drop". (Who knows? They might even come back to you offering the proper rate of pay for the job. But - even if they didnt - at least you wouldnt have lost any money.)

The ball is then in their court. There is the risk that the implied threat of redundancy if you don't take this position might be a true one. However - it is often the case that employers threaten to do something that they aren't actually able to do and/or never intended to do anyway - so they may well be bluffing anyway.