Ireland Begins Voting On 2nd Lisbon Treaty Referendum

Milarky

NualaBuala wrote: »

One worry for me was losing our veto. We're so small and I think Ireland and the UK as non-Schengen island nations have some issues not shared by mainland Europe so I'd have liked to keep that. I voted Yes as on balance, I think the treaty is a good thing even if it's not perfect.

Nuala,

In practice the EU remains a variable geometry club. But at some point the 'outs' become so insignificant that the 'ins' should no longer be dictated by their peculiar preferences. As a Brit, I am saddened at my country's relentlessly negative (not to mention carping) atitude to all things EU since they let us 'in' (yes, that's the reailty of the situation) in 1973. It's pathetic. Have these people never seen this?

leveller2911

Milarky wrote: »

Nuala,

In practice the EU remains a variable geometry club. But at some point the 'outs' become so insignificant that the 'ins' should no longer be dictated by their peculiar preferences. As a Brit, I am saddened at my country's relentlessly negative (not to mention carping) atitude to all things EU since they let us 'in' (yes, that's the reailty of the situation) in 1973. It's pathetic. Have these people never seen this?

So we,ll just paper over the cracks then???? If the EU was a ltd company they would be insolvent and a fraud investigation launched.

They then elect a "fraud tsar" who when tries to bring the comissioners to account they sack her...........

Welcome to EU honesty,integrity.........shame on them...

As for "Letting us in" in 73 , we along with Germany are the only 2 net contibuters(truth is they need our money......Fact).

The EU is corrupt to the core, where is the democracy in telling a country to keep having an election until they come up with the right decision??????

Afriend_2

leveller2911 wrote: »

So we,ll just paper over the cracks then???? If the EU was a ltd company they would be insolvent and a fraud investigation launched.

They then elect a "fraud tsar" who when tries to bring the comissioners to account they sack her...........

Welcome to EU honesty,integrity.........shame on them...

As for "Letting us in" in 73 , we along with Germany are the only 2 net contibuters.

The EU is corrupt to the core, where is the democracy in telling a country to keep having an election until they come up with the right decision??????

Makes a good escape for when the proverbial !!!!!! hits the fan.
Me, I'll be off somewhere with a budget surplus that looks after its citizens.

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Mr_Mumble

Milarky wrote: »

As a Brit, I am saddened at my country's relentlessly negative (not to mention carping) atitude to all things EU since they let us 'in' (yes, that's the reailty of the situation) in 1973. It's pathetic. Have these people never seen this?

The EU didn't exist before 1993, the negatives of the EU far outweigh the advantages (of which I can not name one that couldn't be achieved by joining Norway in the EEA).

Generali

globalds

This should be enough to cause a massive no vote ..Should they ever offer us a referendum
http://news.scotsman.com/uk/Blair-set-to-be-president.5700748.jp

treliac

globalds wrote: »

This should be enough to cause a massive no vote ..Should they ever offer us a referendum
http://news.scotsman.com/uk/Blair-set-to-be-president.5700748.jp

Good article, but the referendum's not looking promising.

globalds

This has to be one where the people who have experience of him should be allowed a decision on his future role .
The man is a liar and has abused his position to further his own ambitions