friend fired, work stats blamed, thats not true

tizhimi

Right, to cut a very long story short, my mate who I used to work with on a temp contract has been fired and replaced by another temp.

The management have said this is because his work isn't up to scratch and his "hours" on his "work manager" are saying he's not doing as many as everyone else.

This is complete rubbish, this guy hated his job but was actually very good at it. Truth be told I was always asking him what to do etc..

He's been sacked because he stood up to the a*se of a manager and said how you measure the work load is incorrect etc and said very nicely to the manager that he was in the wrong and that the team were working.

The manager ended his motivational speech with "we've got twenty new temps starting next week and can soon make it twentyfive, your not iraplaceable" .

He's just got a call from the agency telling him not to go back in and he was fired. Just wondering if this a*se of a manager can get away with this sort of language to people..... I thought saying that was illegal.

Anihilator

Of course he can.

Companies can also measure performance any way they want and dont need to adapt it to suit what the staff want to be measured on.

The likiehood is your friend was nowhere near as good as he thought and another example of workers who think they can do what they want when they want and fall back on the nanny state employment laws we have which mean short of killing someone at work its very difficult to be sacked.

TEDDYRUKSPIN

tiz. This is normal. To make it worse, your friend is on a temp contract. Another excuse for a company not to provide any benefits at all.

vaporate

Anihilator wrote: »

Of course he can.

Companies can also measure performance any way they want and dont need to adapt it to suit what the staff want to be measured on.

The likiehood is your friend was nowhere near as good as he thought and another example of workers who think they can do what they want when they want and fall back on the nanny state employment laws we have which mean short of killing someone at work its very difficult to be sacked.

That or the manager was a complete !!!!!?

OP, tell your friend to find perm jobs, the moron who sacked him prob did him a favour.

Welshwoofs

Op - it wasn't a call centre was it? I ask because I worked in one for a week and they seemed to have that sort of turn-over of staff.

In my case I had given up one job, relocated and had a month before taking up a new job I'd been offered so decided to get in some temp work. I got plonked in a cattle...call centre for a famous credit card on the inbound activation. There was a floor of some 140 people, around 70% of whom were agency temps (including me). Conditions were awful and the management spoke to you like carp and spent their entire time reminding you that you were not employed. On day one I got handed a headset with used ear foams (EWWW!) and told I couldn't have new ones, my station had a chair with a broken height adjustment which left my feet dangling off the floor and they 'incentivised' people to sell payment protection with bottles of beer.

To be frank I didn't give much of a damn how I got on as I had a job lined up, so I was kicking my heels. I got my first 'talking to' on Day 2 for having "too clipped an accent". I got 2 'talking tos' on Day 3 for demanding a chair with working height adjustment and questionning whether bottles of beer was a suitable bonus structure. On Day 4 I got fired for 'not being suitable for call centre work' (no !!!!!! Sherlock).

I'm glad I did it, it gave me hours of amusement telling other how bloody terrible those places are.

tizhimi

how on earth can this man get away with this?!?

he needs taking down a peg or two this stuck up manager - honestly, he called them all "his children" - ewwwwghhh! creepy...

Rockporkchop

Your friend was mad to say that sort of thing to the manager when only on a temporary contract, however nicely he supposedly said it.

Temp contract = head down, work hard and keep nose clean until contract finishes or something better comes along.

Horace

That's the nature of temp work - you can be in work one minute and out the next.

I think rather than trying to fight a losing battle it would be better to move onto something else perhaps by asking the agency for temp to perm work instead where you temp for a while and if they like you and you like them then you are kept on.

Motorvating

Anihilator wrote: »

Of course he can.

The likiehood is your friend was nowhere near as good as he thought and another example of workers who think they can do what they want when they want and fall back on the nanny state employment laws we have which mean short of killing someone at work its very difficult to be sacked.

What an arrogant jumped up buffoon you are. You sound just like the jumped up little Hitler's I deal with every day in grievances and tribunals. You obviously know nothing of employment laws and have no understanding of compassion, so please, if you have nothing constructive to say then SHUT UP.

tizhimi there is little that your friend can do in this case, agency workers have few rights bar the statutory laws which cover us all which makes them amongst the most vulnerable workers in society, and victims to the idiots like Anilhator who put that horrid post on your query.

tizhimi

oh well, didn't realise that people could be spoken to in that manner and get away with it.

zenmaster

tizhimi wrote: »

He's been sacked because he stood up to the a*se of a manager and said how you measure the work load is incorrect etc and said very nicely to the manager that he was in the wrong and that the team were working.

The manager ended his motivational speech with "we've got twenty new temps starting next week and can soon make it twentyfive, your not iraplaceable" .

He's just got a call from the agency telling him not to go back in and he was fired. Just wondering if this a*se of a manager can get away with this sort of language to people..... I thought saying that was illegal.

No manager or employer is going to take kindly to a temp telling them they are doing it all wrong.

And why on earth would telling someone they are not irreplacable be illegal?

Motorvating wrote: »

You sound just like the jumped up little Hitler's I deal with every day in grievances and tribunals.

And you, I'm afraid, sound like a joke union rep from a 1960s comedy. The guy gobbed off to his line manager. Had he been a permanent employee this would probably have been a disciplinary offence but he was a temp so they got rid of him.