Is EMA Fair???

Lokolo

skiTTish wrote: »

Almost everyone who is against EMA is against it because they didn't get and had to struggle .

I got it and I am against it. But I wasn't going to refuse free money. I'm not that stupid.

immynjoesmum wrote: »

when I was at college I couldn't get it because my mums income was too high. It annoyed me though as my best mate didn't work because she got EMA and I worked all day on a Saturday for less than she got paid for doing nothing.

I got EMA and I had 2 jobs when I was in lower sixth! Was awesome. Apart from working 12-12 on a Saturday urgh.

bumpoowee

student_advisor wrote: »

EMA = £30 per week max
JSA = £50(ish) per week and claimable for 16/17 yr olds where parents are on benefits

EMA = must attend every session for at least 12 hrs per week and behave
JSA = must sign on every other week and say you're looking for work

so, if JSA's an option for you, you'll certainly be better off on that than coming to college

True - if JSA is an option for you. But very few 16 or 17 year olds are entitled to JSA:

http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/JCP/Customers/WorkingAgeBenefits/Jobseekerallowance/index.html

So the alternative for your stereotypical chav would be to sit at home with no income.

aaranj

bumpoowee wrote: »

True - if JSA is an option for you. But very few 16 or 17 year olds are entitled to JSA:

http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/JCP/Customers/WorkingAgeBenefits/Jobseekerallowance/index.html

So the alternative for your stereotypical chav would be to sit at home with no income.

Would you care to explain why you think 16/17 year olds from poorer backgrounds are stereotypical chavs? Either put up or shut up.

bumpoowee

aaranj wrote: »

Would you care to explain why you think 16/17 year olds from poorer backgrounds are stereotypical chavs? Either put up or shut up.

I think MI6 have installed radio transmitters that are tuned into the exact frequency of 16-17 year olds in council housing areas. These transmitters tap into the 16-17 year olds subconcious and give them sudden impulses to buy burberry clothing and throw stones and pennies and passers-by. On their 18th birthday, all these impluses dissapear.

Or maybe I never said or thought anything of the sort.

aaranj

bumpoowee wrote: »

I think MI6 have installed radio transmitters that are tuned into the exact frequency of 16-17 year olds in council housing areas. These transmitters tap into the 16-17 year olds subconcious and give them sudden impulses to buy burberry clothing and throw stones and pennies and passers-by. On their 18th birthday, all these impluses dissapear.

Or maybe I never said or thought anything of the sort.

So you don't remember posting this?

bumpoowee wrote: »

Exactly. Its a complete waste of taxpayer's money used purely to keep unemployment figures down as braindead chavs are paid to 'attend' college rather than go on the dole. Hopefully part of the upcoming government cutbacks will be to scrap this waste of millions of pounds.

bumpoowee

aaranj wrote: »

So you don't remember posting this?

there are a certain number of braindead chavs who receive EMA purely as a bribe to stay off the unemployment stats. At no point did I say people from poor backgrounds are all chavs, some are some aren't. I think you must have an inferiority complex.

aaranj

bumpoowee wrote: »

there are a certain number of braindead chavs who receive EMA purely as a bribe to stay off the unemployment stats. At no point did I say people from poor backgrounds are all chavs, some are some aren't. I think you must have an inferiority complex.

An inferiority complex, in the fields of psychology and psychoanalysis, is a feeling that one is inferior to others in some way.

Nope, I'm afraid your diagnosis is incorrect. I don't believe I am inferior to anybody, least of all you. Although not being a trained psychiatrist (or actually knowing me) it's to be expected. Unless you are a mental health professional then shut up and until you know what you are talking about.

Tribulation

karenccs67 wrote: »

The teachers are able to withdraw EMA on a weekly basis if students do not behave, do their assignements etc. One girl in my daughters tutor misbehaved so the whole class lost their EMA for that week which annoyed them all but it was made clear to them that EMA is not a "freebie" you have to work for it, which my daughter does. I do believe all students should receive the same amount rather than it being means tested.

That was not the case at my daughters college. While they have the power to stop peoples EMA, it seems to be up to the individual college/tutor as to whether they do or not.

As for stopping it for the whole class because of one person, whether I agree with EMA or not, if my daughters was stopped due to someone else's behaviour, I would have fought it to the highest possible level. That's like saying I don't get paid because another person in the department is skiving. What about someone in the class that is behaving and does rely on the money? Very bad example for that tutor to have done.

bumpoowee

aaranj wrote: »

Nope, I'm afraid your diagnosis is incorrect. I don't believe I am inferior to anybody, least of all you. Although not being a trained psychiatrist (or actually knowing me) it's to be expected. Unless you are a mental health professional then shut up and until you know what you are talking about.

Well if you are not a professor in the English language shut and and stop trying to use the English language. Stupid argument isn't it?

Seriously you do seem to have some anger issues and are imagining that people are trying to get at you when they aren't.

karenccs67

Tribulation wrote: »

That was not the case at my daughters college. While they have the power to stop peoples EMA, it seems to be up to the individual college/tutor as to whether they do or not.

As for stopping it for the whole class because of one person, whether I agree with EMA or not, if my daughters was stopped due to someone else's behaviour, I would have fought it to the highest possible level. That's like saying I don't get paid because another person in the department is skiving. What about someone in the class that is behaving and does rely on the money? Very bad example for that tutor to have done.

I agree with you but the EMA people (who are only in 1 day a week) at her college seem to go along with the tutors.