Order of Sale enforcement

chriszzz

Steve40 wrote: »

I will third this i bought my child up at my mothers for 6 years and also payed my X wife a large sum every month . I now have to pay the money all over again. im losing my home my 2 year old is about to be homeless . all down to a load of !!!!!! who have no clue how to run a maintenance system.

This is awful, I really dont know how this can be happening, csa one day will find that it has gone too far but unfortunately it will be too late for some

There is no possible way would I have my childs nrp loose there home, at the end of the day my child will have to learn if nrp can not afford maintenance due (to genuine reasons) that his nrp love overides money every time am not going to bring up my child to believe that money is more important than a loving relationship with the nrp

I thought the csa were there to help PWC to collect maintenance. Its appears that the csa make the rules, unless they have had permission from the PWC to take this action or in fact any action. The csa are becoming the new heavies and taking over the baliffs.

I am so glad that I have not turned out to be motivated by money and the misery it causes.

Steve40_2

chriszzz wrote: »

This is awful, I really dont know how this can be happening, csa one day will find that it has gone too far but unfortunately it will be too late for some

There is no possible way would I have my childs nrp loose there home, at the end of the day my child will have to learn if nrp can not afford maintenance due (to genuine reasons) that his nrp love overides money every time am not going to bring up my child to believe that money is more important than a loving relationship with the nrp

I thought the csa were there to help PWC to collect maintenance. Its appears that the csa make the rules, unless they have had permission from the PWC to take this action or in fact any action. The csa are becoming the new heavies and taking over the baliffs.

I am so glad that I have not turned out to be motivated by money and the misery it causes.

Its nice to find the odd person that thinks the way you do . Its a shame the csa dont see it this way

nadine273

If a NRP owes a very large sum of monies not because he was unfairly assessed but simply because he refuses to pay any maintenance would you still think that it is unfair for his house to be sold?

A NRP's responsability towards his child does not end when the marriage/relationship breaks down.

chriszzz

nadine273 wrote: »

If a NRP owes a very large sum of monies not because he was unfairly assessed but simply because he refuses to pay any maintenance would you still think that it is unfair for his house to be sold?

A NRP's responsability towards his child does not end when the marriage/relationship breaks down.

Actually i would still think it would be unfair for his house to be sold. Why would I want to do that to my child NRP. I would rather my son have a loving relationship that cost nothing rather than have the NRP on the streets, whats the world coming to?? Am not saying NRP should get away without paying child support.

In some circumstances the relationship does end because some PWC makes it hard for the NRP to have contact, which then he has to go to court which puts him into further debt and dont forget most NRP have to leave the family home and contents and start over again with nothing.

I was left in my house with all the contents, my ex asked for nothing, and was financially contributing up until my son was 13.

The NRP then become unemployed and could not afford to pay maintenance for the last 4 years... so should I order the NRP to sell the house so that he can pay me the last 4yrs maintenance....I dont think so!!!

I get more enjoyment seing them both have a happy healthy none interfered relationship, that is worth more than selling a house to pay maintenance

kelloggs36

chriszzz wrote: »

Actually i would still think it would be unfair for his house to be sold. Why would I want to do that to my child NRP. I would rather my son have a loving relationship that cost nothing rather than have the NRP on the streets, whats the world coming to?? Am not saying NRP should get away without paying child support.

In some circumstances the relationship does end because some PWC makes it hard for the NRP to have contact, and in some circumstances, the NRP walks away without a backwards glance which then he has to go to court which puts him into further debt and dont forget most NRP have to leave the family home and contents and start over again with nothing.

I was left in my house with all the contents, my ex asked for nothing, and was financially contributing up until my son was 13.

The NRP then become unemployed and could not afford to pay maintenance for the last 4 years... so should I order the NRP to sell the house so that he can pay me the last 4yrs maintenance....I dont think so!!! That's the difference though - any CSA assessment would have been nil, it is not the same as having to pay an amount and then refusing to do so, which is what I believe to be a fair thing to do.

I get more enjoyment seing them both have a happy healthy none interfered relationship, that is worth more than selling a house to pay maintenance

So would I, only the NRP decided that is not what he wanted - he wanted no contact and to pay nothing towards upkeep of his child either. These are the types of people who need to be forced to face up to their responsibilities - not those who can't pay as the CSA only take such actions on those who fail to make an agreement. It is not a simple procedure - they get the charging order first, and then apply for the order for sale; it is at this point that the solicitors have to be satisfied that it is a watertight case otherwise it will be thrown out.

Soubrette

chriszzz wrote: »

The NRP then become unemployed and could not afford to pay maintenance for the last 4 years... so should I order the NRP to sell the house so that he can pay me the last 4yrs maintenance....I dont think so!!!

To be honest in that situation the NRP would not be deemed to have much income to pay a proportion from. In your situation , assuming y9ou are on CSA2 that it would be a nil assessment if he is claiming benefits and seeing his son for one night a week (I hope Kelloggs will correct me if I'm wrong )

Hats of to you and your ex for having a trusting relationship where your son is obviously a top priority for both of you.

Sou

nadine273

chriszzz wrote: »

Actually i would still think it would be unfair for his house to be sold. Why would I want to do that to my child NRP. I would rather my son have a loving relationship that cost nothing rather than have the NRP on the streets, whats the world coming to?? Am not saying NRP should get away without paying child support.

In my own personal opinion:

If a NRP refuses to pay child maintenance despite being able to afford to make a contribution -no matter how big or small the contribution is- that speaks volume about how he feels about his/her child!

I am afraid but I cannot feel sorry for those kind of ppl.

Some PWCs could lose their home if they cannot afford to pay the rent/mortgage because they are struggling as they are not getting any kind of support from the NRP.

E.g. A couple separate/get divorced. The NRP could not care less about contributing towards his/her child upbringing. The PWC eventually loses his/her home.

Would it still be of your opinion that the NRP should be entitled to keep his home?

You need to look at every angle of a situation before making the kind of statement that you are making.

nadine273

chriszzz wrote: »

Actually i would still think it would be unfair for his house to be sold. Why would I want to do that to my child NRP. I would rather my son have a loving relationship that cost nothing rather than have the NRP on the streets, whats the world coming to?? Am not saying NRP should get away without paying child support.

In some circumstances the relationship does end because some PWC makes it hard for the NRP to have contact, which then he has to go to court which puts him into further debt and dont forget most NRP have to leave the family home and contents and start over again with nothing.

I was left in my house with all the contents, my ex asked for nothing, and was financially contributing up until my son was 13.

The NRP then become unemployed and could not afford to pay maintenance for the last 4 years... so should I order the NRP to sell the house so that he can pay me the last 4yrs maintenance....I dont think so!!!

I get more enjoyment seing them both have a happy healthy none interfered relationship, that is worth more than selling a house to pay maintenance

I am sincerely happy that your ex-husband did not act like a ****. I suppose the two of you had a private arrangement and thus you did not need to contact the CSA.

I would not want a NRP to lose his/her home when he/she cannot afford to contribute to their child upbringing because he/she is out of work.

But many NRPs who are working and earning a good wage are not even willing to pay at least £25/week.

What is £25/week if one is earning £56K/year?

You are in a very nice position but many PWCs do not have a loving and caring NRPs.

When I'm out and see a homeless person I give them whatever I can: a bit of money, a sandwich, ...
I do so because I know that if it was not for my lovely partner who took care of me and my child I could have been one of those homeless person I meet on the street.

chriszzz

nadine273 wrote: »

In my own personal opinion:

If a NRP refuses to pay child maintenance despite being able to afford to make a contribution -no matter how big or small the contribution is- that speaks volume about how he feels about his/her child!

I am afraid but I cannot feel sorry for those kind of ppl. I too dont feel sorry for them ppl.

Some PWCs could lose their home if they cannot afford to pay the rent/mortgage because they are struggling as they are not getting any kind of support from the NRP. I have know lots of ppl who have divorced and have not yet heard of any who have lost their home, thats not saying it doesnt happen, I just dont know of any!!

E.g. A couple separate/get divorced. The NRP could not care less about contributing towards his/her child upbringing. The PWC eventually loses his/her home.

Would it still be of your opinion that the NRP should be entitled to keep his home? Maybe thats were the csa could come in and give the home to the ex and his children in appose to money, as they would be better off with a roof over their head

You need to look at every angle just me?? or does that go for every individual case??of a situation before making the kind of statement that you are making.

If you read some of the posts, you will find that some NRP are claiming that through the incompetence of some csa staff, they have lost their homes, so you can see the bitterness that the csa bring to ppls lives.

Dancing_Shoes

chriszzz wrote: »

Actually i would still think it would be unfair for his house to be sold. Why would I want to do that to my child NRP. I would rather my son have a loving relationship that cost nothing rather than have the NRP on the streets, whats the world coming to?? Am not saying NRP should get away without paying child support.

In some circumstances the relationship does end because some PWC makes it hard for the NRP to have contact, which then he has to go to court which puts him into further debt and dont forget most NRP have to leave the family home and contents and start over again with nothing.

I was left in my house with all the contents, my ex asked for nothing, and was financially contributing up until my son was 13.

The NRP then become unemployed and could not afford to pay maintenance for the last 4 years... so should I order the NRP to sell the house so that he can pay me the last 4yrs maintenance....I dont think so!!!

I get more enjoyment seing them both have a happy healthy none interfered relationship, that is worth more than selling a house to pay maintenance

You sound like a fantastic mother who puts her child before anything else:T I was truly amazed when I read your post (in a good way;))