condensing boiler plumbing

hrafndot

my landlord is considering fitting a condensing boiler. Unusually I have to have this boiler in my sitting room which is small anyway. I am trying to find out what legislation there is to prevent the flue coming out onto my patio which is heavenly and I can picture two boilers exiting onto this patio will cause considerable pluming problems.

I am going to have to hit them with the rule book since with are in a conservation area, there is a perfectly sensible area in the kitchen where the boiler could be situated where the pluming would not offend anyone. My neighbour would also not then have to view the flu.

Has anyone got any other ideas?

ajbaker

Regards your question about pluming from a condensing boiler, I wish you luck!

Two points:

is either of the two properties listed - I ask since you say you are in a Conservation Area and sometimes the two go hand in hand.

I think the legislation re positioning of flues is summarised in the installation manual of the boilers.

Check out http://www.worcesterbosch.co.uk/index.php?fuseaction=product.detail&con_id=125928&detail_id=126474
as an example of positioning requirements. I would imagine other boilers will have similar requirements to the Bosch.

hrafndot

Thank you for this information. I think, though the building is not listed as the area is a conservation area, neighbours will have a say on pluming. I will contact the planning people tomorrow.

raymond

If you really dont want a new boiler, I'm sure your landlord has better ways of spending his money so just tell him. But dont go running expecting one put in next day if you have no heating or hot water sometime soon.

catkins

Who says it has to go in the living room? Why? It must be easier to do this or perhaps cheaper? Where is your existing boiler?

robowen

hrafndot wrote:

Has anyone got any other ideas?

Hi Rachael,
Part L1 of the building regs states quite clearly :

Next, consider ALL feasible condensing boiler positions and extended flue options, irrespective of
whether they are acceptable to the customer. In some positions special condensate disposal
arrangements may be necessary. At present, the installation options listed below are NOT regarded as
feasible for the purpose of this assessment procedure, and should NOT be considered: refer to theGuide for further information. (These options do not necessarily contravene standards or regulations,
and in some cases they may be acceptable to the customer.)
Any external extended vertical flue pipe visible on the side of the building facing the main approach
direction (this is usually the front). Note that this refers only to the flue pipe, not the flue terminal.
Where the boiler or extended internal flue is in a principal living room that does not include a kitchen
area.

less than 2.1 metres above the ground and the plume of flue products would:
�� be directed across a public footway or frequently used private access route; OR
�� be directed across a frequently used area (eg, patio).

If you need a full copy of the assessment procedure regs in pdf form pm me and I'll send 'em over. Have your email options checked to allow emails first.

rob

hrafndot

Dear Rob, thank you as always, for your detailed response. OHs birthday tonight so not so compos mentis as would wish so will thank you for the time being and will get back when I can type.

Raymond - thank goodness I am not in the situation where I have to battle with "the landlord". I live in a Co-operative and so have to work democratically,but its still difficult,,,May I go on a bit further when I'm not quite so tiddly. Thanks for all your responses.

hrafndot

Catkins, the boiler is in the living room because I was fated to have a not very imaginative architect, and yet less imaginative builders. This is a long story but I am committed to the socialist principal because I've been here so long Besides, I DO love it here. At the moment, I am far too imbibed to continue, but thank you for your response and I will return to this thread when it is socially acceptable to do so.

hrafndot

PS. Raymond, I am being told these things by people who think that just because they talk loudly, this gives them authority. I think loud !!!!!!!! is still !!!!!!!! but I wait......................

Wickedkitten

Are you renting the property?

hrafndot

yes but as it is a cooperative all the tenants run the organisation and make democratic decisions