90% Public Sector Final Salary Pension Meltdown Scandal

Graham_Devon

Harry_Powell wrote: »

Is this the same person you know who is a single mum and creams £30k from the welfare state? :rolleyes:

The person you refer to was actually 22k, you had added 8k to make a point.

And no. It's someone at work who's reduced their hours.

Sir_Humphrey

Cuts to public sector conditions will only be enforceable if unemployment stays high and the private sector alternative continues to be less lucrative. Simple market forces. So people should be careful of what they wish to have happen to the public sector.

Divide and rule...works every time.

Harry_Powell

Graham_Devon wrote: »

The person you refer to was actually 22k, you had added 8k to make a point.

And no. It's someone at work who's reduced their hours.

As benefits are tax free, I estimated the Full Time Equivalent salary inclusive of NI and Income tax. It added up to about £8k.

You seem to know a lot of people in unfortunate circumstances, I wonder how they would feel if they knew they were being held up for derision on a public forum by yourself?

I myself know a few people who have hit on hard times. Strangely I have never felt the need to post information about them on a forum. I guess we are different personality types, Graham.

Graham_Devon

Harry_Powell wrote: »

As benefits are tax free, I estimated the Full Time Equivalent salary inclusive of NI and Income tax. It added up to about £8k.

You seem to know a lot of people in unfortunate circumstances, I wonder how they would feel if they knew they were being held up for derision on a public forum by yourself?

I myself know a few people who have hit on hard times. Strangely I have never felt the need to post information about them on a forum. I guess we are different personality types, Graham.

I'd already estimated that. It's 22k gross, as you well know as there was a huge argument about it.

Why do you feel the need to try and create an argument out of everything Harry?

What on earth has this got to do with the OP Harry?

Harry_Powell

LOL Graham, replace the "Harry" with "Graham" in your statement and you'll be closer to the truth. I often wondered how you managed to have such a high posting count. I soon realised when I saw (and still see) your argumentative posts filling otherwise interesting threads. You're a walking example of why we need to shrink the public sector - far to many of you doing anything other than working!!

Why did you even mention your colleagues free dentistry, what on earth did that have to do with the OP?

Sir_Humphrey

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I'd already estimated that. It's 22k gross, as you well know as there was a huge argument about it.

Why do you feel the need to try and create an argument out of everything Harry?

What on earth has this got to do with the OP Harry?

I wouldn't bother arguing here. I haven't posted (or even lurked) here for months (been far too busy over the spring/summer) and now I remember why.

My parting shot: the politicians are still lying to you. You are not going to cut 10% of spending by "efficiency savings" alone - nowhere near, that is Jim Hacker cloud-cuckoo land politics. Any savings that do come through would not be for years (in the case of pensions decades) and would be more expensive in the short term.

If politicians are really serious about cutting debt quickly they will raise taxes heavily - which means everyone (myself included) paying a LOT more. That is the only way to raise the money quickly.

That is the truth of the matter. I will doubtless get flamed for it but I really don't care any more. I'd rather be right than popular.

tuggy12

Harry_Powell wrote: »

LOL Graham, replace the "Harry" with "Graham" in your statement and you'll be closer to the truth. I often wondered how you managed to have such a high posting count. I soon realised when I saw (and still see) your argumentative posts filling otherwise interesting threads. You're a walking example of why we need to shrink the public sector - far to many of you doing anything other than working!!
Why did you even mention your colleagues free dentistry, what on earth did that have to do with the OP?

Great point Harry. GD's made 28k posts in 4 years ,thats 7k a year, or 20 posts a days.
So he's spending time on here while being paid with taxpayers' money.
Not particularly productive of him and he complains that he can't afford to buy a house.
I wonder why?

mewbie_2

Harry_Powell wrote: »

I often wondered how you managed to have such a high posting count.

Comes of not being PPR'd for posting antagonistic crap.

Harry_Powell

mewbie wrote: »

Comes of not being PPR'd for posting antagonistic crap.

I don't know how, most of the posts I see of his are antagonistic. Yours too if I'm being honest.

chucky

tuggy12 wrote: »

Great point Harry. GD's made 28k posts in 4 years ,thats 7k a year, or 20 posts a days.
So he's spending time on here while being paid with taxpayers' money.
Not particularly productive of him and he complains that he can't afford to buy a house.
I wonder why?

is that really the case!?!?!?!

if this is true it's not good ... these born-again bears are the worst type, always angry and antagnostic, blaming everyone else for their misfortunes.