Help plz with wirell routers

worriedsik

Hi

There is a desk top pc in spare room and the netgear is connected to that if i want to use laptop say in another room i always have to go into spare room obv to switch the netgear on.

1st prob....I want to move that pc into the large cuboard in that room but the grey cable that connects to the telephone filter and back off the netgear is not long enough. what can i do ?

i changed my package the other day with AOL and they kindly sent me another ( high speed wireless router D-link ) nice new shiny black & silver one ) checked in box and there is another small grey cable in there but just the same as the one thats on the desk top , along with one D-link filter and yellow cable etc.

Q what can i do here ? can i connect the new wireless router somewhere else in house iam just going to be using the lap top now as daughter off to uni so she wont be using the desk top only when she comes home

thanks for any help iam hopeless

worriedsik

sorry another Q

does these wireless routers have to be connected to the pc/laptop i was in somebodys house and noticed there wireless router ( netgear ) was just connected to there filter and phone socket on wall ! can i do this or does the yellow cable have to be in the PC like it is on my daughters desk top ?

worriedsik

jeez oh lol i cant believe i just spelled wireless as wirral in title....apologies

kwikbreaks

In general you only need to have a PC on a wired connection to a router to set it up for the ADSL connection and the Wireless security bits. After that you can just run wireless clients. You could even do it all on wireless if it was on to start with but a simple slipup could blow the connection out so it's easier wired.

It isn't entirely clear to me whether you mean the ethernet cable which goes between the PC and the router or the ADSL cable that goes from the router to the filter in the phone socket. They are not the same but longer versions of either can be bought.

worriedsik

kwikbreaks wrote: »

In general you only need to have a PC on a wired connection to a router to set it up for the ADSL connection and the Wireless security bits. After that you can just run wireless clients. You could even do it all on wireless if it was on to start with but a simple slipup could blow the connection out so it's easier wired.

It isn't entirely clear to me whether you mean the ethernet cable which goes between the PC and the router or the ADSL cable that goes from the router to the filter in the phone socket. They are not the same but longer versions of either can be bought.

sorry i dont understand ADSl etc

juliescot

If you want to move the router to further away from the telephone socket you will need a longer cable - telephone type
If you want to move the pc but leave the router where it is but still be connected to it - you will need a different longer cable -Ethernet.

worriedsik

Thanks i think i understand that now

if i were to put this new D-link in place off the netgear will i have any trouble or is it just a case off conecting it all up......i remember having to go through wireless router conections etc and putting in a key ie numbers ?

also is this D-link high speed router any better than the netgear ?

thanks i know iam a pain

JasX

Options:

1) put the computer in the cupboard and leave the router where it is, no it doesn't need to be connected to the computer once setup and working.

-you'd need a wireless card/dongle (should be about £9) for the computer if you still wanted it to access the network from across the room
-or you could get a longer ehternet cable and leave the router where it is and stretch this cable across the room
-make sure putting the PC in the cupboard doesn't cut off air circulating to it otherwise it'll overhead and will break.

2) get a longer telephone cable and put computer + modem/router into the cupboard
-same comment about overheating applies

3) Now you have 2 phone cables you might find you can buy an adapter/extender to let you connect them together and work as a long telephone cable

4) leave the existing modem/router where it is and set the new modem/router up as a 'wireless bridge' attached to the PC avoiding the need for the new wireless card/dongle -this is slightly complicated and you'd need to check the 'receiving' router (the one the computer end not the phone end) was capable of operating in this mode, from what you say above get a friend to help on this one...

Any longer cables/cable adapters you'd need should cost no more than a few quid each if you look online (<£5) tho no doubt PC World/Dixons etc will try to charge you £25+ each for them, same for the wireless card/dongle

Jaffa.

JasX wrote: »

Options:


4) leave the existing modem/router where it is and set the new modem/router up as a 'wireless bridge' attached to the PC avoiding the need for the new wireless card/dongle -this is slightly complicated and you'd need to check the 'receiving' router (the one the computer end not the phone end) was capable of operating in this mode, from what you say above get a friend to help on this one...

Thats over-ably awkward, you'd lose the ability of connecting computers wirelessly and theres issues of different make/manufactures so it might not work anyway and using wep as security on the wireless (because you cant use wpa) is an issue.

D-Link over netgear. There's more options and it's easer to set them up, they dont break down as much either. They have a SPI firewall too, Netgear properly does not.

worriedsik

jaffa

do i just disconnect the netgear then and re connect the D-link ? will i have to change all the settings etc or will it just regognise it i dont know a thing lol

Jaffa.

You'll need your login details for aol which is

Username: (landline telephone number without brackets)@dialbb.com
Password: (usually it's aol123

Connection type is PPPoE LLU
MTU: 1450

VPI: 0
VCI: 38