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  • I'm not missing the point - I'm pointing out the reverse - why should the children of the previous relationship miss out because of the choices of te NRP made afterwards - they didn't ask to have their lives changed did they? The point is that the NRP's natural children LOSE OUT, not the step children or the new children.
  • shell_542
    shell_542 Posts: 1,333 Forumite
    kelloggs36 wrote: »
    Can you not work at all and help the household income?

    I would love to go out to work and not have to rely on any tax credits what so ever. It is the only "benefit" we apply for. At the moment working around my husband's hours are impossible and the extortionate cost of child care is making it very difficult for many parents to afford to work when relying on child care. I have been looking for worthwhile jobs for over a year.

    Tax credits are my income for staying at home with our children, if I was out earning the equivalent amount, it wouldn't be factored in. Its what I get for my children. The Pwc gets theirs so it seems fair to leave it untouched to me.
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  • Soubrette
    Soubrette Posts: 4,118 Forumite
    shell_542 wrote: »
    The Pwc gets theirs so it seems fair to leave it untouched to me.

    As I pointed out previously - it is household income and so the PWC does not necessarily 'get theirs' depending on what their household income is.

    Lizzie, I work part time because of the tax credits and am looking to increase my hours now that the children are older - no shame in that part of things imo :o Of course if they are suddenly taken away then I'll have to get a better paid job and cut down outgoings some more :)

    Sou
  • shell_542
    shell_542 Posts: 1,333 Forumite
    Can I just say my sons were here before my husband knew about his other child. My children do lose out because of not only their father's stupidity and choices, but the PWC's in my case too, so excuse my strong feelings on the matter. Lol
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  • Soubrette
    Soubrette Posts: 4,118 Forumite
    shell_542 wrote: »
    Can I just say my sons were here before my husband knew about his other child. My children do lose out because of not only their father's stupidity and choices, but the PWC's in my case too, so excuse my strong feelings on the matter. Lol

    We all have strong feelings on this and hopefully no one takes it personally :)

    Of course other children 'lose' out just as they would in a traditional family situation - one child probably gets more family income spent on it than five children but that is never the child's fault :(

    I can only reiterate that tax credits are deemed family income for both the PWC and NRP, so any partners (on both sides) involved so get stuffed I'm afraid :(

    Sou
  • shell_542
    shell_542 Posts: 1,333 Forumite
    The only reason a Pwc wpuld get no tax credits at all would be if they had a household income of over £60,000 a year. The PWC in our case does get tax credits.
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  • shell_542
    shell_542 Posts: 1,333 Forumite
    Its a shame each case cannot be assessed individually as this one solution fits all attitude doesn'y help everyone. My point though was that not always do the children with the PWC come first. All situations can vary.
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  • Soubrette
    Soubrette Posts: 4,118 Forumite
    shell_542 wrote: »
    The only reason a Pwc wpuld get no tax credits at all would be if they had a household income of over £60,000 a year. The PWC in our case does get tax credits.

    Indeed, and if the PWC earned £10,000 a year and the PWCP earned £50,000 then no tax credits because the PWCP is assumed to be supporting the children of that household.

    Assuming the PWC is a single parent then yes, they will get all tax credits due on their income only - same as a single NRP - everything will be assessed on their own income.

    As to assessing each case individually - can you imagine how much that would cost :eek: It's simply not feasible I'm afraid.

    Personally I think a person has equal responsibility to all children they have produced whether they be the eldest or the youngest. I can see why you are angry that your children are suffering because of mistakes that adults have made and can completely understand why though.

    Sou
  • shell_542
    shell_542 Posts: 1,333 Forumite
    Soubrette wrote: »

    As to assessing each case individually - can you imagine how much that would cost :eek: It's simply not feasible I'm afraid.


    Sou

    Oh I know, in an ideal world aye? :rotfl:

    We are very fortunate in that my children don't lose out because the PWC in our situation has agreed to a figure not including our tax credits. You might say, what the hell am I whinging at that then?! but the thought that she could turn around and go to the CSA whenever she wanted even though we pay child support on time every month, is very frustrating.

    I wish all families could just do it through a private agreement, an agreement that both families can afford with no need for this middle man who is only interested in meeting targets really. But some people are just too selfish. Both sides of the fence ;) And it's a shame the innocent children are caught up in it all.
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  • kelloggs36
    kelloggs36 Posts: 7,712 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I agree - if my ex had come to an agreement way back when, he would have been so much better off! Oh well, he made his choice.
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