Child Tax Credit - how much can they take?

chriszzz

LizzieS wrote: »

And in the days before tax credits, how would he have supported a stay at home mum plus child, In the same way it still applies to day, give £ 200 a month to the sos or even working mum The working mother would be entitled to the whole sum of £200 a month and childcare costs? The law today states that company's can give flexible time to working mothers when there children are of a young age

Basically this is an example of some-one who could happily take the tax credits to pay for their child when part of a couple, If the minimum wage was not so low they would not need to claim tax credits but suddenly sees himself as far more important than the offspring. I dont think they all think they are more important than the offspring, I think they too have difficulty meeting there financial responsibilities

Where does he live to pay £39 per fortnight council tax, after the 25% single occupant discount? He pays £79 a month including 25% single occupancy, those sums were broken fortnightly.

The gas and elec seem way too high for someone out of the house for well above actual working hours of 40pw, sleeping hours etc. I have to disagree with you, as I too work full-time and my is near the same amount, in fact i will be paying for more gas soon because the winter approaches.

Seriously, I don't think a minimum wage job would suit a single person who wants to live alone.

No, single wage is not enough for someone to live alone but some nrp finds themselves in this situation whether they like it or not and have to maintain emotional and financial responsibility to there offspring/s. I think the way its going men are becoming second rate citizens, for what i read on these posts, it appear biased towards the nrp, almost like they are all to blame for the family breakdown .

chriszzz

shell_542 wrote: »

I can imagine spending a lot more than child benefit on older children. I can safely say I don't at the moment, they are still young. But then my children don't have loads of clothes and only get new toys at birthday/Christmas.

It does depend on your own circumstances. I read on here I think, someone complaining their elder children cost them lots, like for example their driving lessons for their 17 year old. My first thought was, why on earth can't the 17 yr old pay for their own driving lesson if their Mum can't afford it?! Lol Different opinions.

I agree with this, we should be teaching our children independent living skills and that not everything they want, we can afford, they have to learn to stand on there own two feet.

What I have suggested to my son is, instead of party or pressie for his 18th I have said that i would pay for his driving lessons, which he is thrilled about.

Its about compromise and if we teach them to just take then they will, am more proud that i have brought mine up to be independent.

Just hope it only takes couple of months for him to pass his test lol!!

As for how child support is split for more than 3 kids, I always thought the total 25% was split between however many children and then paid to the appropriate PWC.

Children adapt very well to change, as long as the parent/s have an open honest relationship with there children.

shell_542

Me too Chriszzz. My 17th birthday my parents paid for a block of driving lessons. I was really chuffed that I wouldn't have to fork out £10 of my waitressing job wages a week to pau myself. But when those run out, I had to, because my parents couldn't afford to pay for everything I wanted when I was old enough to have my own job and spending money. I've still not passed my test yet btw :rotfl:

chriszzz

shell_542 wrote: »

Me too Chriszzz. My 17th birthday my parents paid for a block of driving lessons. I was really chuffed that I wouldn't have to fork out £10 of my waitressing job wages a week to pau myself. But when those run out, I had to, because my parents couldn't afford to pay for everything I wanted when I was old enough to have my own job and spending money. I've still not passed my test yet btw :rotfl:

If there is one thing you owe yourself is to get back out there and get that driving license
Anyway there about £20 a lesson now lol!!

shell_542

I know! Bleeding expensive! That shows how long ago I was 17 lol

I am learning but due to lack of funds only having lessons every 2 - 3 weeks

LizzieS_2

shell_542 wrote: »

Not all NRPs end up supporting step children. Many go on to have their own children with a new partner. The natural children would then have less spent on them ... just like if the PWC and NRP stayed together and had more children themselves.

I understand it must be annoying if someones ex has gone on to support a new partner's children and seems to begrudge supporting their own but these arguments always seem to come back down to NRPs supporting step children. Many NRPs have their own natural children with a NRPP.

Agree, there are frequently either only new children or a mix of new and step.

I always find it strange when people say pwc spends less on existing children due to having another in a new relationship. For my last child I did get £43pw extra in tax credits, guess which child gets most of this...........the eldest!

LizzieS_2

chriszzz wrote: »

No, single wage is not enough for someone to live alone but some nrp finds themselves in this situation whether they like it or not and have to maintain emotional and financial responsibility to there offspring/s. I think the way its going men are becoming second rate citizens, for what i read on these posts, it appear biased towards the nrp, almost like they are all to blame for the family breakdown .

Chriszzz, there are more than 4 weeks in a month - £79pm council tax = £36 per fortnight (not £39). It still seems high (£1264pa without reduction), maybe its me assuming the low rent makes it a band A property for council tax, or you are quoting figures that are actually only going to be paid for 10 months.

shell_542

LizzieS wrote: »

Agree, there are frequently either only new children or a mix of new and step.

I always find it strange when people say pwc spends less on existing children due to having another in a new relationship. For my last child I did get £43pw extra in tax credits, guess which child gets most of this...........the eldest!

When the eldest has moved out and is fending for themselves, the youngest will suddenly get their share back, no doubt! :rotfl:

chriszzz

LizzieS wrote: »

Chriszzz, there are more than 4 weeks in a month - £79pm council tax = £36 per fortnight (not £39). It still seems high (£1264pa without reduction), maybe its me assuming the low rent makes it a band A property for council tax, or you are quoting figures that are actually only going to be paid for 10 months.

I only know this through a colleague, I haven't got the figures, he doesn't know that his sister has discussed his problems. the rent is for a bedsit, If he was to rent a two bedroom house the rent would be £450-£500pcm, there is no way that he or anyone on a low wage would be able to afford these rates.

Minimum wages don't match the cost of living and if you have financial responsibilities then it only makes it harder and am not suggesting that nrp don't pay child support, just merely stating a fact for some on low wage.

LizzieS_2

shell_542 wrote: »

When the eldest has moved out and is fending for themselves, the youngest will suddenly get their share back, no doubt! :rotfl:

Ignoring inflation/wage increases etc, by the time my eldest moves out I will have a greater income for less children so yes my youngest will get the same.